Some materials are sensitizers. The stuff in poison Ivy for
instance. You can contact it once with no reaction but the second
time you are in trouble. I can't remember exactly now but some
developing agents are chemically related to the stuff in Poison
Ivy and Poison Oak. Could be the BBQ stuff has something similar
in it.
On 8/11/2021 1:06 AM, Eric Nelson (Redacted sender emanmb for
DMARC) wrote:
Woulda, coulda, shoulda.
I've not been wet since I moved back in 2012, but a couple years back I started making hot sauces here in BKK. Not wimpy ones either. All the veg gets smoked and at times I was caught out at the grill with 1/2 a kilo of thai chilies ready to be pulled off. So I'd just scoop em up barehanded. Sure I knew not to touch my eyes etc, but it really didn't bother me much. I have a high tolerance, or should I say HAD.
I developed a skin condition that has me on steroids now to keep the symptoms at bay. Someday it may go away but for now it's not.
So now I NEED nitrile gloves for all food/meal/chili prep as well as dish washing (playtex work for that) as my hands are now easily irritated by the constant need to wash in those processes.
But back in the darkroom days I used tongs as it was easier and I didn't need to rinse my hands constantly and dry them. There were times that the tongs needed my free hand to assist, but for the most part I just kept my hands out. It was just easier and FASTER. Pyro et al were done in the Jobo so no issues there, and for platinum etc I kept my hands out of the developer or at a minimum except for potassium oxalate which I did my best to avoid. Albumen left AgNO3 stains no matter what lol.
The times I absolutely used gloves in the dark was with strong acids. I remember a teeny tiny drop of nitric on my finger despite being very careful while doing titration analysis of the albumen AgNO3 solution. Ouch. Learned my lesson.
Eric
On Tuesday, August 10, 2021, 3:42:33 AM GMT+7, Richard Lahrson <gtripspud@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Same here. Rinse hands after
being in a solution. I use a tray
rocking and mixing paddle to
agitate. The only times the fingers
are in solutions is the transfer.
On Mon, Aug 9, 2021 at 12:41 PM Tim Daneliuk <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
On 8/9/21 8:45 AM, BOB KISS (Redacted sender bobkiss for
DMARC) wrote:
> DEAR LIST,
>
> I have posted this info a number of times
before. When I was a student and beginning photog, "real
men don't use tongs or gloves" was the rap. As a result I
needed medical treatment to remove phenols (most dev
agents) and some metals from my liver using chelation.
Further, I love pyro devs and Gordon Hutchins in his BOOK
OF PYRO points out that pyrogallol is both a toxin and
carcinogen...you choose to die quickly or slowly...if you
don't wear gloves.
>
> The "no glove" rule was in direct
contradiction to the lab safety techniques I learned in
both undergrad and grad Photo Chem Lab at RIT. Thank god I
returned to the fold and, for many decades, have used tongs
when possible and gloves when not. I prefer working with
gloves as tongs don't let me handle the prints as
carefully. I also prefer the more puncture proof (and
therefore thinner and more tactile) nitrile exam gloves as
I am also allergic to latex...as are many people.
In my youth, I had my mitts in developer a lot but I didn't
do enough darkroom work
to worry much about it.
I use tongs when printing smaller prints, but occasionally
put fingers in solutions
and rinse immediately. For larger prints I use a
combination of tongs and fingers but - again -
I rise immediately and don't keep hands in solution.
I use nitriles for mixing or using any form of Pyro-based
developers.
I also use nitriles when cleaning up after a darkroom session.
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