[pure-silver] Re: More (Semi) Standing Around

  • From: Luis Miguel Castañeda <octabod@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Mon, 08 Feb 2021 09:27:57 +0100


First of all: I have no direct experience with pyrocat-HD itself, but had some with a few catechol-based developers and other staining developers, like tanol, finol, and Thornton's dixactol.

I guess none of those are in a different ballpark if not very close brothers; even some claimed to be the same formulation under a different name.

My experience on staining (either catechol or pyro) is :

- Catechol stain is faint.

- Different emulsions colors differently, with several degrees of intensity, no matter what kind of agitation you use.

- Most stain color seems to be washed out during fixing and washing.

I've found that the advice of using an alkaline sodium thiosulfate-based fixer (as TF2) without sodium sulfite keeps as much stain as you will get. I doesn't keep beyond the day, so I do prepare it just before use. I don't know the chemistry behind that, it's only a empirical observation after following advice.

- Without carriyng proper testing which needs more equipment and methods than most of us have, it's almost impossible to tell apart what is stain by reduction and what is gelatin toning (inside the picture, of course).

As final note, my lab gets water in a wide range of temperatures depending the season, so I standarized in 24C processing (75F), as it's easier to heat in winter than cool down during the long summer. It may take its role in staining, can't tell as I'm using this temperature as standard for a very long time.

my 2c.

On Sunday, February 07 2021, 23:01:22, Tim Daneliuk wrote:

Tri-X (at least TXT - how many versions of Tri-X have there been?
Many, methinks.) stains most.
Neither APX 100 or FP4+ stain anywhere near as much.

--
Compare the black-and-white photographs of Ansel Adams, Edward Weston and Irving Penn, with color or digital. It's the difference between art and mere representation.
 --- Yvon Chouinard
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