----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Hornford" <dave@xxxxxxxxxx> To: <pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, October 04, 2004 7:38 PM Subject: [pure-silver] Re: Hypo-Alum Toner (Photo-Formulary) > Richard, > > Thanks > > The Formulary calls for Distilled water (52C/125F) & > Sodium thiosulfate, > pentahydrate. Then mixing in Potassium alum (alum), with > the Silver Nitrate > & Potassium Iodide as options to be added after. (I didn't > include amounts > deliberately - I don't believe I have licence to publish > their formula). > > But the document doesn't mention that sulfurization is > required. > > Regards Dave > Sodium Thiosulfate, pentahydrate is the crystaline form. Well, they undoubtedly got their formula from somewhere else. The Kodak formula is the only one not requiring boiling at some point. Defender had three variations for different kinds of paper. One had a gold modifier and one Potassium iodide, like Kodak T-1a. The Silver nitrate is necessary when mixing fresh toner because the toner bleaches the image otherwise. Without the nitrate it must be "seasoned" by toning scrap prints until it stops bleaching, or at least, until the bleaching is reduced to a reasonable level. The iodide produces silver iodide in the process of toning. It is a tone modifier. Hypo-Alum toner can be made with a chloride, usually sodium chloride, an Iodide, or a bromide, or a combination of these. They affect the tone but I can't tell you in what direction. Some Hypo-Alum toners contain a small amount of Gold Chloride (Kodak Gold Medal Toner T-113 and Defender 1-T, which are identical). When an image toned in a sulfiding sepia toner (as distinct from Selenium or Copper toners) it will turn the image brick red. When added to the toner is shifts the tone towards red. Nelson's Gold Toner is a more satisfactory gold modified direct toner than the Hypo-Alum modifications. The best source of instruction for Nelson's is the patent. It is USP 1,849,245 available on-line from the US Patent and Trade-Mark office at http://www.uspto.gov You will need a plug-in to read the FAX TIFF files the patent images are in. The best is Alternatiff, which is free-ware. A Google search will take you to their web site. Here, for reference, is Defender's simplest Hypo-Alum formula, intended for Velour Black and other Bromide papers. Defender 2-T Hypo-Alum Toner Solution A Boiling water 4.0 liters Sodium Thiosulfate, crystaline 480.0 grams Potassium Alum 120.0 grams Dissolve the thiosulfate thoroughly before adding the Alum. The mixture should be boiled for a few minutes, then allowed to cool. When cool add the following. Water 30.0 ml Silver nitrate, crystals 1.4 grams Sodium Chloride 1.4 grams Dissolve the silver nitrate first and then add the sodium chloride when it is thoroughly dissolved. The entire solution, including any precipitate should be added to Solution A with stirring. The completed toning bath should be allowed to stand for several hours in order to "ripen". To use place in a tray in a water bath and heat to a temperature not to exceed 120F. Prints will tone in 15 to 30 minutes at the above temperature. Handle prints face up. Move them around a little at the start and reove all air besss from the surface by means of cotton swabs. Toned prints should be thoroughly washed in several changes of water. Waxh water should be too cold at the start. A sudden change of temperature from the earm toning bath to cold tap water will sometimes cause blisters. Black and white prints can be toned int he above sepia toner directly after than have been developed and fixed in the usual manner. The Silver Nitrate prenvents bleaching and should be present in the formula in the exact qualitity give above at the start of toning. Excess of silver nitrate will "clog" toe toning bath and is apt sometimes to cause bluish tones. In one of its other formulas, the one with the Gold Chloride, it is instructed that the prints be fixed again for five minutes after toning. This may be to harden them or it may be that the Gold Cloride version produces some free halide. Re-fixing is definitely necessary after Nelson's, but it works somewhat differently than the above. The remarks pertaining to mixing and using apply to all such toners. --- Richard Knoppow Los Angeles, CA, USA dickburk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ============================================================================================================= To unsubscribe from this list, go to www.freelists.org and logon to your account (the same e-mail address and password you set-up when you subscribed,) and unsubscribe from there.