LOL Well I do ride a bike. The other poster that had an explanation that sort of makes sense to those that don't understand the physics. Its about what we were saying all along. Still this will get me by till I can deal with the others. Now I can cut the filters for length and width to fit, but I can't alter the thickness. Thats the real question. Just how much thicker are the dichoric filters compared to what they designed the unit for and would the added thickness keep the wheels from turning normally? What would really be the ultimate in frustration is to take the thing apart, put new filters in it, take maybe two days of work to do it, get it all back together and find out it won't move like it should because the filters are waay too thick. Thanks again to everyone. "Nicholas O. Lindan" <nolindan@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > called me a name OK, you are homocentric bipedalist! > The contrast filters I have used in the past are > those Ilford 6x6 gels. Those are nothing more > than plastic. When you project through them Different filters are used under the lens: http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/24675-REG/Ilford_1762617_Multigrade_Filter_Set_with.html > That has to take some of the quality out Gelatine filters take no quality out. Glass camera filters introduce more distortion... > I know its done by many Cut up 6x6 acetates into 9 2x2 acetates for under lens use? Yes, it is a common trick - and at $70 for a set of under-lens Vs $45/9 = $5 a set for acetates. Look through the filter at a very low angle to see if it has any ripples, most don't but some do. If the filter is flat you are OK. == Nicholas O. Lindan Cleveland Engineering Design, LLC Cleveland, Ohio 44121 ============================================================================================================= To unsubscribe from this list, go to www.freelists.org and logon to your account (the same e-mail address and password you set-up when you subscribed,) and unsubscribe from there. --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now.