[pure-silver] Re: Condenser envy

  • From: İbrahim Pamuk <ibrahim.pamuk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 01:06:00 +0300

Hi Richard,

Your answer was very informative and help me to understand lot. Thank you very 
much

Ibrahim Pamuk


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Subject: [pure-silver] Re: Condenser envy


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ibrahim Pamuk" <ibrahim.pamuk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 11:46 PM
Subject: [pure-silver] Re: Condenser envy


Hi,

I understand that Callier effect results as contrast 
increase. Is it possible to get higher contast due to same 
approach printing with f/2.8 vs f/22?

Regards

Ibrahim Pamuk

    Callier effect takes place before the light reaches the 
projecting lens. The particles of silver that make up the 
image scatter some of the light that strikes them. When the 
light comes from one direction, as it does when a point 
source or condenser type lamp is used, the scattered light 
is mostly reflected away from the path to the lens so the 
density looks greater. When a diffuse source is used the 
light comes from a wide angle so some of the light being 
scattered by the particles is reflected away from the path 
to the lens as above but some of the light is scattered 
_toward_ the lens, thus increasing the amount of light in 
the dark areas and lowering the contrast. Since the light 
rays that make up the image are those directed at the lens 
the f/stop will have little, if any, effect on the contrast 
other than optical effects in the lens itself and those 
don't vary with Callier effect.
    Again, Callier effect varies with the size of the 
particles making up the image. The larger the particles the 
greater the effect. For modern B&W films with silver images 
the difference between coarse and fine grain films is 
negligible especially as the emulsions are three dimentional 
but for color films the effect is in total negligible 
because the image is made up of very small dye particles 
which are partially trasparent and don't scatter much light 
anyway.
     The usual condenser enlarging head uses a large, 
diffuse, lamp so the light is partially diffuse. The light 
focused on the enlarging lens is not completely collimated 
(i.e., is not coming from a single direction) but is, 
rather, partially diffuse due to the size and surface of the 
lamp. So, the Callier effect is such as to increase contrast 
for silver images somewhat but far from as much as would be 
the case for either a point source at a distance or a 
collimated point source. Typical partially diffusing 
sources, such as those found on Omega and Bessler enlargers 
is about one paper grade, maybe not even that much. The old 
Elwood enlarger has a reflector and looks superficially like 
a diffusion source but is actually similar to the condenser 
sources above. It uses a very large diffuse lamp in an 
eliptical reflector with a diffusion light equalizer above 
the film which acts something like a center filter to reduce 
the hot-spot at the center. The other glass plates in the 
thing are plain and are used for heat absorption since the 
Elwood has a reputation for cooking negatives.
    Most color heads use an integrator box made of highly 
diffusing reflecting surfaces and are essentially diffusion 
sources, but again, for color work the image contrast is not 
much affected by the type of lamphouse although the contrast 
of blemishes are.
    Tests made many years ago show no difference in 
resolution or edge contrast (acutance) between prints made 
on diffusion vs: condenser enlargers although there may be 
an increase when a true point source is used.

---
Richard Knoppow
Los Angeles, CA, USA
dickburk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 

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