[pure-silver] Re: Cokin Gradual filter
- From: "EJ Neilsen" <ej@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2006 13:05:34 -0500
After I read his response to you that became obvious, or maybe not. I took
it to read dodge in the final print. And still dodge is to lighten, if I
wanted to "dodge" a red shirt, I'd shoot with a red filter perhaps. I
suppose if one asked, "I'd like to add some drama to my sky, what would you
do?", there would be less confusion as to where to start the conversation.
If someone wanted to mimick an old neg, they may indeed want to dodge or
blow out the sky.
I do not recall hearing anyone refer to dodge unless we are working in the
darkroom, either real or virtual. In the field, I would talk in terms of out
come, the visualization of the print. I don't go to my filters thinking
negative affect, I go to them thinking printing effect. This same process
goes into shooting color. I would never think, I am going to need a really
yellow based neg if I want to have a blue sky, I'd grab my blue filter, 1/2
ND filter or polarizing filter; not my yellow negative filter : )
Eric
Eric Neilsen Photography
4101 Commerce Street, Suite 9
Dallas, TX 75226
214-827-8301
http://ericneilsenphotography.com
Skype : ejprinter
> -----Original Message-----
> From: pure-silver-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:pure-silver-
> bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ralph W. Lambrecht
> Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2006 12:53 PM
> To: PureSilverNew
> Subject: [pure-silver] Re: Cokin Gradual filter
>
> Eric
>
> Blue is not the best choice for what he wants to do. 'Dodge'
> means to reduce
> the intensity of something. He wants to darken the sky, it is
> too intense,
> hence the graduated filter. He is better off with an orange or
> red grad
> filter. He is working on the negative, not the positive in the
> darkroom.
>
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>
>
> Regards
>
>
>
> Ralph W. Lambrecht
>
> http://www.darkroomagic.com
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> On 2006-06-06 18:43, "EJ Neilsen"
> <ej@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> > No, Blue is the RIGHT color to dodge the sky. I have not seen
> the specific
> > filter you are referring to. I would depend greatly on time
> of day, and
> > angle of shooting as to whether it is enough or not. Testing
> can only tell
> > unless you can find a spectral distribution chart for that
> filter and match
> > it with a know filter in your bag; say an 80B, 80C... ( or
> should that be
> > 82?) That is one of those thing I often need to look at
> again.
> >
> >
> > Eric
> >
> >
> > Eric Neilsen Photography
> > 4101 Commerce Street, Suite 9
> > Dallas, TX 75226
> > 214-827-8301
> > http://ericneilsenphotography.com
> >
> > Skype : ejprinter
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: pure-silver-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:pure-silver-
> >> bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ralph W. Lambrecht
> >> Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2006 6:38 AM
> >> To: PureSilverNew
> >> Subject: [pure-silver] Re: Cokin Gradual filter
> >>
> >> Blue is the wrong color, because it will lighten the sky,
> but
> >> the density
> >> will help. Hard to tell. Why not a red or orange grad?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Regards
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Ralph W. Lambrecht
> >>
> >> http://www.darkroomagic.com
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 2006-06-06 13:30, "Breukel, C. (HKG)" <C.Breukel@xxxxxxx>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>> I have been looking (not very actively though) for a Cokin
> >> "P" gradual
> >>> gray filter (120) to "dodge" the sky in a landscape
> >> photograph, and I
> >>> came across a blue gradual filter (123 B2). Would ththat
> >> filter also
> >>> work in B7W, or is it's density too little for efficient
> >> holding back
> >>> the exposure of the sky?
> >>>
> >>> Best,
> >>>
> >>> Cor
> >>>
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