It is just saying that you can set aperture to F4 instead of applying a time factor. Opening up to F4 will give you an effective f8 at 1:1 magnification. But if you do that, then you must recalculate DOF because it will change as a result of using an F4 setting. RobC ============================================================================================================= To unsubscribe from this list, go to www.freelists.org and logon to your account (the same e-mail address and password you set-up when you subscribed,) and unsubscribe from there.