Phil, The PTN1 is a DAISY player made by Plextor but which does not record - it's simply for playback of DAISY titles. It is one of the models being used by RNIB's Talking Books Service for members, the other one being the Victor Classic. As to whether or not the PTR2 upgrade will work for the PTR1, I don't know. Jamie -----Original Message----- From: ptr1-users-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ptr1-users-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Phil Parr Sent: 11 May 2007 00:43 To: ptr1-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Here is a stupid question. What is a p t n, and why have I never heard of them. Secondly, didn't the p t r update the soft wair thru the u s b port, and, can I update my old p t r. Thanks, Phil Parr. __________ NOD32 2262 (20070512) Information __________ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com