[project1dev] Re: Project1 - SVN Update 436
- From: "eric" <figarus@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: project1dev@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 11:55:40 +0000
I really liked the gameplay and story of smrpg
Hey, re: scribblenauts...
The first things I did:
Made god, made thee devil (they fight)
Made a brain, made a zombie (the zombie eats it)
Made the LHC and it made a blackhole (xkcd gave me that one)
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From: Chris Riccobono <crysalim@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 00:30:12
To: <project1dev@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [project1dev] Re: Project1 - SVN Update 436
That video doesn't make much sense to me, but I think the overall idea
of tying action to sound is great. Mario rpg did that so wonderfully
(one of Eric's favs if I recall).
On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 11:00 PM, Alan Wolfe <alan.wolfe@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> that is kinda rediculous :p
>
> On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 10:51 PM, Nick Klotz <roracsenshi@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>> Mother 3 uses the sound system. They call it Sound Battles. Here's an
>> excellent video that demonstrates it.
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPBPlNxTlDw
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>> On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 11:26 PM, Steven <supremeshadowkai@xxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>
>>> In that case, it sounds like we can easily create sounds that emanate
>>> directly from the object/sprite in question. :)
>>>
>>> One thing we could do with the background music if you like the effect is
>>> have the level music come from speakers mounted on the wall in certain
>>> rooms, so it would seem like the sound gets quieter and louder as you leave
>>> and enter different rooms. I seem to recall games like half life doing
>>> stuff like this with voice announcements. It might make the music itself
>>> more interactive.
>>> Some of my random ideas:
>>>
>>> I think it would be cool if we had musical sound effects to go with
>>> attacks, so if you use some kind of combo special attack it could have a
>>> musical effect that plays along with any slashing/chopping/etc. effect.
>>> Games like Kingdom Hearts have done this, and I always thought it was cool.
>>> Same thing could be done with jumping, running etc. We could even have the
>>> music slow down and speed up based on how fast you are moving... or if we
>>> have a time limit imposed have the music speed up to add drama.
>>>
>>> Maybe equipping specific items/weapons/etc. could change the music. Like
>>> if you put on a "Knight's Hood" it could switch to some hardcore medieval
>>> music. Overall, I think having music cued to events (not just sound
>>> effects) would make the game feel more interactive.
>>>
>>> Maybe if I get the hang of this stuff, we can put in some weird music
>>> creation mini-game (since you guys have been talking about mini games so
>>> much), or even a part of the game where the floor is like a giant keyboard,
>>> and as you walk it plays the sounds. I think stuff like this really adds to
>>> a game. ;)
>>>
>>> Also as a side note, if you (those in charge XD) would like
>>> Leonardo/Cosmonet/K-Pax to work on music, let me know so I can tell him. If
>>> you want him to have email/server access, that can happen too. His English
>>> is not great, but I can still easily understand and converse with him. But
>>> I bet our wacky/tech'd out emails would throw him a loop... on the other
>>> hand he is trying to get better at speaking English. Anyway, no rush but if
>>> we want him to work on anything let me know so I can tell him, or put him on
>>> the email list.
>>>
>>> XD
>>>
>>>
>>> Alan Wolfe wrote:
>>>>
>>>> well check it out, fmod has a way where you can specify where a sound is
>>>> coming from in 3d coordinates, and it manipulates the sound in software to
>>>> make it sound like its coming from that location (well... if you have
>>>> stereo
>>>> output anyhow haha).
>>>> It's actually really cool, its how in games things sound like they are
>>>> coming from your left, or behind you.
>>>> i think it would be really cool in our game cause you could hear a
>>>> music box playing off to the left faintly and as you walked towards it, it
>>>> would get louder.
>>>> It would be a neat effect and we could maybe even lead people places by
>>>> sound alone
>>>> ::shrug:: :P
>>>> On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 7:46 PM, Steven <supremeshadowkai@xxxxxxx
>>>> <mailto:supremeshadowkai@xxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Cool yeah. Honestly in terms of surround sound stuff I don't
>>>> really know too much. So this will be a learning process for me
>>>> too. XD
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Alan Wolfe wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Steve, I leave the design and implementation of the sound and
>>>> music system up to you (:
>>>> the only caveat is i'd like our game to have 3d positional
>>>> sound effects (or at least we can try it out and see how it
>>>> fits into our game)
>>>> And if something seems cool to you, I just suggest profiling
>>>> before deciding not to do it because it will be too slow (ie
>>>> don't hold back until you profile! :P)
>>>> Also if something is really cool but it IS really expensive
>>>> (CPU or memory wise) to do, we can always save it for special
>>>> situations, like we could have a simpler area graphically to
>>>> allow for the sound to be more intricate if it makes sense (ie
>>>> echoey cave sounds or something).
>>>> (:
>>>> On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 7:30 PM, Steven
>>>> <supremeshadowkai@xxxxxxx <mailto:supremeshadowkai@xxxxxxx>
>>>> <mailto:supremeshadowkai@xxxxxxx
>>>> <mailto:supremeshadowkai@xxxxxxx>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Well I would start out with a basic play function for level
>>>> music.
>>>> The way FMOD splits it up, is you have different audio
>>>> function
>>>> calls for music you want to stream as you go (like level
>>>> background music), and then ones that get loaded directly into
>>>> memory in full to play right away or even multiple times (like
>>>> sound fx and whatnot). What I could do is write functions to
>>>> allow us to control playback a bit closer. We could have
>>>> volume
>>>> oscillate, or have the music cut in and out (like a
>>>> glitch), weird
>>>> effects, and other stuff I have not even thought of. We don't
>>>> want to bog down the engine too much with on the fly audio
>>>> processing, but maybe some simple stuff would be ok. Most
>>>> of all,
>>>> this will be stuff that the creative team, kent, and alan will
>>>> want to consider, because it will directly affect the
>>>> psychological flow of the game.
>>>>
>>>> Also, we could have different playback functions for sound
>>>> effects
>>>> to control different aspects of them, and have them play
>>>> differently.
>>>>
>>>> In any case, the first step is just the basic Sound_Play()
>>>> function that alan talked about. This is what I will start
>>>> on.
>>>> But once that is done, we can make more complicated ones.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Kent Petersen wrote:
>>>>
>>>> What ideas do you have?
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 10:20 PM, Steven
>>>> <supremeshadowkai@xxxxxxx
>>>> <mailto:supremeshadowkai@xxxxxxx>
>>>> <mailto:supremeshadowkai@xxxxxxx
>>>> <mailto:supremeshadowkai@xxxxxxx>>
>>>> <mailto:supremeshadowkai@xxxxxxx
>>>> <mailto:supremeshadowkai@xxxxxxx>
>>>>
>>>> <mailto:supremeshadowkai@xxxxxxx
>>>> <mailto:supremeshadowkai@xxxxxxx>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I might be able to put some work into that this
>>>> weekend, or
>>>> this
>>>> week. I'm going to try my best to set aside some
>>>> time. :)
>>>>
>>>> I'll want to talk to you guys regarding how you want to
>>>> implement
>>>> that. We could have different kinds of plays
>>>> depending on
>>>> how you
>>>> want the music file to play/interact with the level..
>>>> ;)
>>>>
>>>> Steven
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Alan Wolfe wrote:
>>>>
>>>> we need Steve to make a Music_Play() script
>>>> function so
>>>> we can
>>>> start dropping music in levels (:
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 3:25 PM, Kent Petersen
>>>> <kentkmp@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:kentkmp@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>> <mailto:kentkmp@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:kentkmp@xxxxxxxxx>>
>>>> <mailto:kentkmp@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:kentkmp@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>> <mailto:kentkmp@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:kentkmp@xxxxxxxxx>>>
>>>> <mailto:kentkmp@xxxxxxxxx
>>>> <mailto:kentkmp@xxxxxxxxx> <mailto:kentkmp@xxxxxxxxx
>>>> <mailto:kentkmp@xxxxxxxxx>>
>>>> <mailto:kentkmp@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:kentkmp@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>> <mailto:kentkmp@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:kentkmp@xxxxxxxxx>>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Yay, potential music.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 2:37 PM, Apache User
>>>> <dhapache@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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>>>> <mailto:dhapache@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> User:puggles
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>>>> Message: trying various patches with some
>>>> improv
>>>> alan did.
>>>> pretty rough draft here so i'll be playing
>>>> around with it a
>>>> lot more or if aynone else wants to do
>>>> anything
>>>> with it
>>>> feel
>>>> free. same with any other files i submit. :D
>>>>
>>>> <Files Changed>
>>>> A Audio/Music/Underwater1_01 draft.mp3
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