RE: window eyes 7.2, windows seven and gwspeak

  • From: "Ken Perry" <whistler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2010 20:55:41 -0400

Your right but you know what your statement "I tell people not to use it"
could be said about your mud you know your only starting out and your mud
doesn't have a quarter of what other muds have.  VIP is just starting out
and has more than 3/4 of what most mud clients has.  I think then we should
all say no one should try your mud because your mud is worse in comparison
to his mud client.  All I am saying is we should support coders who are
trying to make a power tool for blind users rather than shit on them because
it don't personally fit something you think it should do.  Do you know 90 %
of the mudding community don't need a real scripting language like Python or
Lua in fact I don't even like Lua as a scripting language.  What they need
is a  quick way to write triggers and aliases and then they are happy
something that VIP mud does really well.  I will make sure to let the
mudding community which I happen to know rather well how you feel about new
coding projects that are up and coming.

Ken

-----Original Message-----
From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Tyler
Littlefield
Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 8:49 PM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: window eyes 7.2, windows seven and gwspeak

one of "us?"
Just because a blind programmer writes a program and charges for it doesn't
make it great. I don't like the client, but I know a lot of people use it,
which is fine.

As for your complaint comment, there really was no need. I looked at the
program, seen the difference in that and something like mush or tintin where
I have more power and uninstalled it. Nothing else to it.
                Thanks,
Tyler Littlefield
        http://tds-solutions.net
        Twitter: sorressean

On Apr 26, 2010, at 6:45 PM, Ken Perry wrote:

> 
> 
> The scripting language was kept down like that so that it would match
tintin
> and lintin and zmud all of which are very powerful clients and you can get
> scripts for all of them and easily port them.  You can use rejects in the
> aliases just fine.  Now I don't use VIP but I support the guy who made it
> because he is one of us and if you had a true complaint you would have
made
> it to him and he would have fixed the problem.  I know because he was
> looking for those exact complaints when he put it out.
> 
> Ken
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Tyler
> Littlefield
> Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 7:21 PM
> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: window eyes 7.2, windows seven and gwspeak
> 
> All this is going off the last version I looked at:
> 1) There is no regex trigger matching.
> 2) Rather than let you use a pre-existing language, you have to use their
> scripting language, which isn't nearly as powerful as lua/python or the
> others that mush lets you use.
> 3) There already exist free, open-source clients that do way more for
free,
> with mush it's a matter of installing a plugin. Most of the people that
mud
> with me use jaws, so it's not an issue until tonight when I'm trying to
make
> Windoweyes work, but I really don't see the point in paying for a client
> when you can get way more with mush, tintin++ or something else out there.
> 
>               Thanks,
> Tyler Littlefield
>       http://tds-solutions.net
>       Twitter: sorressean
> 
> On Apr 26, 2010, at 5:09 PM, Ken Perry wrote:
> 
>> 
>> Why the heck would you do that?
>> 
>> Ken
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Tyler
>> Littlefield
>> Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 7:05 PM
>> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: Re: window eyes 7.2, windows seven and gwspeak
>> 
>> I convince everyone else to avoid vipmud, and she's seen sense and done
so
>> as well.
>>              Thanks,
>> Tyler Littlefield
>>      http://tds-solutions.net
>>      Twitter: sorressean
>> 
>> On Apr 26, 2010, at 4:53 PM, Christy Schulte wrote:
>> 
>>> No idea about that, but for mudding she may want to check out vipmud
from
>> www.gmagames.com. Just to prevent reinventing the wheel, so to speak. I
> know
>> it interfaces with window eyes, and I'm pretty sure it works in windows 7
>> though I'm still on xp, myself.
>>> 
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tyler Littlefield"
>> <tyler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 5:58 PM
>>> Subject: window eyes 7.2, windows seven and gwspeak
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hello all,
>>> One of my friends wnts to mud with window eyes, so I went and found some
>> docs and wrote her a plugin to do it with. Someone tells me that on
window
>> eyes 7.0 and xp it works fine, but with 7.2 and seven there is an issue.
>>> I'm using VBs in the plugin, and just CreateObject("gwspeak.speak")
>>> Does anyone have any  info? It just errors on the object creation.
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Tyler Littlefield
>>> http://tds-solutions.net
>>> Twitter: sorressean
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