RE: name of the current program, as seen by Jaws

  • From: "Ken Perry" <whistler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2008 15:19:44 -0500

Interesting it sounds like they are not setting something like a class name or 
something to where Jaws can tell the difference.  I don't know where to point 
you without looking at the way it works in both libraries.  Something you can 
try is using the home row mode in Jaws examine what the window tree looks like 
in both win32 and wx versions of two test applications.  That or use windig on 
both.

Ken
interesting 

-----Original Message-----
From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Octavian Rasnita
Sent: Saturday, December 27, 2008 1:27 PM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: name of the current program, as seen by Jaws

Ok, thank you.

Well, as I said, when a program which is made with WxPerl, Jaws sees it as 
wx.dll, so if I want to create a script for it, the same script would be 
used for all the programs that use WxPerl, which is not ok.
This doesn't happen when the program is made with another GUI library like 
Win32::GUI, so I think WxPerl does something that Win32::GUI doesn't do.
But I don't know what should I ask the WxPerl developers for, because I 
don't know where gets Jaws that information from, so I don't know what 
should be changed in order to make Jaws to recognize each program made with 
WxPerl as distinct programs.

Thanks.

Octavian

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ken Perry" <whistler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, December 27, 2008 7:35 PM
Subject: RE: name of the current program, as seen by Jaws



I am betting they are hooking into win32 and watching for WM_ACTIVATE and 
then doing some complicated parsing to figure out what it is.  Some times 
its simple but sometimes if you have a modal dialog they don't call 
WM_ACTIVATE.  There are other win32 hooks you can grab to make sure you know 
when dialogs get activated but it's not a simple thing to explain.  You will 
need to grab window text some times and parse it using getWindowText and 
figuring out what's what and Jaws has been growing for years learning to do 
this.

Maybe if you tell me what you would like to do I could figure out what you 
need to read up on to get it done.

Ken

-----Original Message-----
From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Octavian Rasnita
Sent: Friday, December 26, 2008 10:10 AM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: name of the current program, as seen by Jaws

But what about those programs that don't have scripts? (Like Notepad)

Or better said, if ScriptAndAppNames() function is a built in one, where
does it gets the name of the currently running program?

Thanks.

Octavian

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ken Perry" <whistler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, December 26, 2008 4:31 PM
Subject: RE: name of the current program, as seen by Jaws


It gets it from the script file here is the script that is in Visual studio.

Script ScriptFileName ()
ScriptAndAppNames(vsmsg3_L) ;Visual Studio .NET
EndScript


-----Original Message-----
From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Octavian Rasnita
Sent: Friday, December 26, 2008 6:26 AM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: name of the current program, as seen by Jaws

Hi,

When I work with a program and I press Insert+Q, Jaws tells the name of that
program. Do you know where from it gets that name?
(For example when I work with Notepad it says "notepad.exe" and when I work
with OE it says "msoe.dll".)

Thank you.

Octavian

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