Hi Listers,
So far I've seen no reference in this thread to the following idea, which
causes a text editor that I built myself to say its name when I use
JAWSKey + Q (before i put this in, it would say default settings and then
identify correctly the .exe file.)
My program is called "SoundText". In the SoundText.jss file, which opens
when I press JAWSKey + 0, this is the first item .
Script ScriptFileName()
ScriptAndAppNames("SoundText")
EndScript
I know nothing of the technicalities of why or how it works, and I don't
remember where I found the idea It was probably several years ago. I
don't know whether it will overcome the difficulties caused when a
program is running from a .dll that doesn't have the program's name.
Perhaps some one could try it out and report back.
HTH.
Ian
Ian D. Nichols,
Toronto, Canada
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ken Perry" <whistler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, December 27, 2008 3:19 PM
Subject: RE: name of the current program, as seen by Jaws
Interesting it sounds like they are not setting something like a class
name or something to where Jaws can tell the difference. I don't know
where to point you without looking at the way it works in both libraries.
Something you can try is using the home row mode in Jaws examine what the
window tree looks like in both win32 and wx versions of two test
applications. That or use windig on both.
Ken
interesting
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From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Octavian
Rasnita
Sent: Saturday, December 27, 2008 1:27 PM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: name of the current program, as seen by Jaws
Ok, thank you.
Well, as I said, when a program which is made with WxPerl, Jaws sees it
as
wx.dll, so if I want to create a script for it, the same script would be
used for all the programs that use WxPerl, which is not ok.
This doesn't happen when the program is made with another GUI library
like
Win32::GUI, so I think WxPerl does something that Win32::GUI doesn't do.
But I don't know what should I ask the WxPerl developers for, because I
don't know where gets Jaws that information from, so I don't know what
should be changed in order to make Jaws to recognize each program made
with
WxPerl as distinct programs.
Thanks.
Octavian
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ken Perry" <whistler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, December 27, 2008 7:35 PM
Subject: RE: name of the current program, as seen by Jaws
I am betting they are hooking into win32 and watching for WM_ACTIVATE and
then doing some complicated parsing to figure out what it is. Some times
its simple but sometimes if you have a modal dialog they don't call
WM_ACTIVATE. There are other win32 hooks you can grab to make sure you
know
when dialogs get activated but it's not a simple thing to explain. You
will
need to grab window text some times and parse it using getWindowText and
figuring out what's what and Jaws has been growing for years learning to
do
this.
Maybe if you tell me what you would like to do I could figure out what
you
need to read up on to get it done.
Ken
-----Original Message-----
From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Octavian
Rasnita
Sent: Friday, December 26, 2008 10:10 AM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: name of the current program, as seen by Jaws
But what about those programs that don't have scripts? (Like Notepad)
Or better said, if ScriptAndAppNames() function is a built in one, where
does it gets the name of the currently running program?
Thanks.
Octavian
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ken Perry" <whistler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, December 26, 2008 4:31 PM
Subject: RE: name of the current program, as seen by Jaws
It gets it from the script file here is the script that is in Visual
studio.
Script ScriptFileName ()
ScriptAndAppNames(vsmsg3_L) ;Visual Studio .NET
EndScript
-----Original Message-----
From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Octavian
Rasnita
Sent: Friday, December 26, 2008 6:26 AM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: name of the current program, as seen by Jaws
Hi,
When I work with a program and I press Insert+Q, Jaws tells the name of
that
program. Do you know where from it gets that name?
(For example when I work with Notepad it says "notepad.exe" and when I
work
with OE it says "msoe.dll".)
Thank you.
Octavian
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