Re: java access bridge problems , someone help please?

From: Florian Beijers <florianbeijers@xxxxxxxxx>
To: "programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 07:41:04 +0100

Hi

I think that would cause trouble when working with others on one project, no?
Thanks for the info om the classpath I'll check it asap 

Florian

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On Jan 30, 2011, at 11:55 PM, Dave <davidct1209@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Ah, totally understand about the need due to a class.
> 
> A few things to try:
> -  try using a few different screen readers (Jaws, NVDA, etc).  NVDA,
> for example, has varying levels of support for JAB and has the added
> advantage you can see exactly what they're doing to access those
> elements.
> -  If you have the accessibility jar file, then as long as it's within
> your classpath, I'd expect app's you compile to expose the right type
> of native accessibility info (in Windows, MSAA) to the screen reader.
> You can test this out if you have some familiarity with MSAA and some
> of the development tools (i.e. Inspect).
> 
> From memory, a jar file is just an archive of ".class" files which
> themselves are binary blobs of your classes along with metadata about
> the jar.  So, it shouldn't matter what the name of the jar file is as
> long as it's within a path where java can find it at runtime (this is
> what they call the classpath).
> 
> Beyond that, I think some of the other guys have more than a passing
> knowledge of JAB.  Curious what class is it for?  If the point is to
> design user interfaces, then I would strongly consider asking the
> instructor to let you do this in another framework such as .Net where
> you'll have far better luck with the accessibility aspects; you could
> still write in java (J#) but you're just using different interfaces to
> construct the GUI.
> 
> Good luck,
> Dave
> 
> On 1/30/11, Florian Beijers <florianbeijers@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> Hello Dave,
>> 
>> Yes, this is true. If this would be my only requirement, I would agree with
>> you.
>> However, the java classes i am going to be taking as a mandatory course will
>> require me to write GUI's.
>> On Jan 30, 2011, at 7:37 PM, Dave wrote:
>> 
>>> Haven't done much in way of UI with java (i.e. SWT/swing), but curious
>>> what your particular need is?
>>> 
>>> I've done lots in terms of just straight java (utilities pertaining to
>>> data processing/parsing, command line stuff, academia stuff, etc).  If
>>> all you're doing is learning java, then this might be the way to go
>>> since all you need is "javac <filename>" and then "java filename" to
>>> run a basic Of course a lot of java can be done without ever touching GUI
>>> code, but this is not an option for me. So once again I ask, if someone
>>> knows what might be causing this please let me know.
>> 
>> Florian
>>> program.
>>> 
>>> On 1/30/11, Florian Beijers <florianbeijers@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>> Hi list,
>>>> 
>>>> I have tried my hand at Java development a twice now.
>>>> The first time it ended in a complete failure because I couldn't install
>>>> the
>>>> jdk myself, for some reason the screen was not readable.
>>>> Second time around i first installed JRE (java runtime engine), than the
>>>> java access bridge and finally the jdk. This worked. After that i ran the
>>>> accessbridge setup again to install the necessary files in the JRE that
>>>> came
>>>> with the JDK. Both times i rebooted my system when prompted.
>>>> Still however the javamonkey and javaferret programs seem not to be
>>>> readable, or at least not the way they should be.
>>>> Also trying some basic javax.swing code elements produced nothing
>>>> according
>>>> to my screenreader.
>>>> I have referenced my directories with the manual setup instructions, and
>>>> see
>>>> two inconsistencies:
>>>> - the accessibility.properties file that is supposed to be in c:`program
>>>> files`java`jre`lib`ext` is not there.
>>>> The file could not be found on a global windows search either.
>>>> - Also, where the instructions refer to copying a accessbridge_x_xx.jar ,
>>>> x
>>>> being a version number, I found that i have an accessbridge.jar file, so
>>>> without a version number attached.
>>>> 
>>>> I have no idea what of all of this is relevant and I am lost beyond all
>>>> recognition when it comes to solving this riddle. I am very very new to
>>>> java
>>>> development so it could just be me doing something wrong but I have no
>>>> idea
>>>> what so if someone can point it out to me that would be very much
>>>> apreciated.
>>>> 
>>>> Regards and thanks in advance,
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