Rick, I'm just using Text Pad to edit XML. We were asked to select an IDE of our choice for the course. Hence why I've chosen visual studio. Not too sure what we're going to do with it yet. But should be sure by Friday. So will give a shout if I run into any issues. Thanks for all the advice. Regards, Lu ----- Original Message ----- From: RicksPlace To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2009 11:54 AM Subject: Re: XML DEVELOPMENT Good Luck with the XML. I do not understand how you would use TextPad and Visual Studio together but if you can get done what you want using TextPad or another Text Editor you will save yourself allot of time learning to use Visual Studio with a Screen Reader. Rick USA ----- Original Message ----- From: LU OGBE To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 7:07 PM Subject: Re: XML DEVELOPMENT Rick, Apologies for not being clear enough. I am only just starting to learn XML and have 3 months before my exams. So I am doing research so I can find the most accessible route to take as I have very limited time. I think I will try text pad and use visual studio 2008 as my IDE. I believe there are scripts for visual studio and help documents for VI users online. When I become more knowledgeable and run into problems I'll give a shout. Thanks for all your suggestions. Regards, LU ----- Original Message ----- From: RicksPlace To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 10:43 AM Subject: Re: XML DEVELOPMENT Note: In Visual Studio type applications you would use a Schema for the XML File to validate it either during editing or at run-time if I am reading it correctly. In other words, the Notepad style XML Editor would then use the Schema to check while you type and you would have Intellisense and all that jazz while you type. You also might be able to generate code over your xml file automatically using the schema but I'm not sure about that. This is all for VS 2008 flavors. The process is slightly diferent for the VS 2005 versions. You can also automatically generate xml files from other file types including a Sql Database. This is an area I have touched on in the current project I am working on but have not dug into yet. It does look pretty cool because it is the backbone, the xml, for many Internet objects including RSS Feeds and the like. Rick USA ----- Original Message ----- From: RicksPlace To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 5:23 AM Subject: Re: XML DEVELOPMENT Hi: I don't think there is a application that will do what I think you are trying to do. Let me see if I am guessing right. You want to be able to add data to a xml file by entering it into things like TextBoxes or picking from DropDown Lists and have that data formatted into an xml file as you add, change or remove items. Does that sound like what you are trying to do? Or, are you just trying to find a application to validate the xml to make sure you have opening and closing tags? If you want to go beyond just having opening and closing tags like making sure they are in the right order and nested correctly you need to use a diferent approach. Rick USA ----- Original Message ----- From: The Elf To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 4:19 AM Subject: Re: XML DEVELOPMENT you might also take a look at note tab there is a link to it off my grab bag site (URL under my name) they may have included that, and if not it's very screen reader friendly, and its scriptable. HTH, inthane proprietor, The Grab Bag, for blind computer users and programmers http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises "own the might and majesty of a Alacorn!" www.alacorncomputer.com ----- Original Message ----- From: D!J!X! To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 6:03 PM Subject: RE: XML DEVELOPMENT y google it and just try it out to see, I don't think it would hurt anything. If it works good, if it doesn't, o well... I'm not sure if it works with xml, but you might want to check out something like Notepad++ or TextPad and see if they do any xml validation/checking for you... HTH, D!J!X! -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of LU OGBE Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 6:50 PM To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: XML DEVELOPMENT D!J!X!, Well I think I will just have to go with note pad. I was just doing some research for my course as we will be doing some XML this year and my lecturer recommended something called XML SPY editor. And I am not sure if that is compatible with JAWS 9. Thanks for all your suggestions. Regards, Lu ----- Original Message ----- From: D!J!X! To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 8:58 PM Subject: RE: XML DEVELOPMENT I personally just use notepad, i mean since it's something you create yourself and that the tags are not set in stone, i guess the only advantage an editor would have is to make sure that each tag you create and open has a closing tag, or it would just make sure you stick to the rules for xml, but other than that, not much there i can see. What exactly are you looking for in the editor? D!J!X! ------------------------------------------------------------------ From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of LU OGBE Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 12:39 PM To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: XML DEVELOPMENT Hello, Please can anyone recommend an XML editor or IDE which is compatible with JAWS 9? Thanks in advance. Regards, LU ----- Original Message ----- From: The Elf To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 3:34 AM Subject: Re: Advanced Development Course Hi, I don't have the answers to your current questions, but having done a lot of college courses, (I was one light semester away from an A S degree), always keep in mind that though you should always try to use the required software, it's up to the school and instructors to make the class accessible to you!, not the other way around. what is the use of that first application? and, several of those second applications seem to be types of Linux based server software's, if so, there are several others than those you mentioned that are accessible, and a few with speech applications built into the kernel. if I am right, let us know and I or one of the others can guide you to them remember, be nice, but be firm with instructors, and don't be afraid to solicit aid from the Disabled Students Center if you have one, and/or the dean of students and the Dean of facility if you need to. HTH, inthane proprietor, The Grab Bag, for blind computer users and programmers http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises "own the might and majesty of a Alacorn!" www.alacorncomputer.com ----- Original Message ----- From: LU OGBE To: programming-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Monday, October 05, 2009 3:58 PM Subject: Advanced Development Course Hello, I am in my final year at university and I am taking a development course. I have a few questions as I have been instructed to download the following application by the course tutor; - Altova XML Spy editor My questions are; - Is this program accessible with JFW 9? - Where can I get a user guide? - Is there a more accessible alternative? Also I have been told to download one of the following application servers; a.. Resin a.. Tomcat a.. Sun Application Server a.. a.. Cape Clear 6 a.. Systinet WASP a.. BEA WebLogic a.. a.. IBM WebSphere. My questions are basically the same as above; - What is an application server? - Which of the above is the most accessible? - Which of the above is easiest to use? Thanks in advance. Regards, LU