RE: Version control

  • From: Katherine Moss <Katherine.Moss@xxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sat, 6 Aug 2011 15:52:08 +0000

SVN integrates with VS2010 via ANKHSVN.  

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From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of David Mehler
Sent: Friday, August 05, 2011 10:51 PM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Version control


Thank you everyone for your replies. I'm liking GIT as I'm on windows at the 
moment, but don't always have this box, and my server is a linux server which I 
do like the idea of being able to pull my code.

First question, books on git, can you recommend some good ones?

Secondly, network communication say between my laptop and my server on the 
internet, how is that handled? Is it encrypted or clear?

Just thought of another one, do either git or subversion integrate with any 
development tools/environments?

Any more suggestions please keep them coming.

On 8/5/11, Ken Perry <whistler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> I use it for work, home business, and home projects.  I will go down 
> the list of the three I have used most of all and the two I suggest and why.
> People need not argue I am just stating my opinions.
> First I started back in 90 with CVS and it was the hot and going 
> thing.  I would not suggest using it because it's a nightmare to 
> reconfigure projects, delete branches, handle tag tagging and many 
> other problems.  It is however well documented and supported on all 
> platforms it just is a nightmare and not as powerful as the next two.
> The one I used up till last year on work and home business projects is 
> Subversion.  It has a really nice windows, Gui and command line and 
> linux command line interface.  It is very quick to set up. The tags 
> and branching is pretty simple but limited when you start diverging and 
> deleting a lot.
> Of course there are some power commands to take care of that like you 
> can export a clean tree and start over but there are still power 
> issues with this.  I would though suggest subversion if you're not 
> getting into programs that are multi  binary multi repo.  With that 
> said we used subversion for a very difficult project including OE 
> Linux, and entire software stack and more shared libraries than I can 
> number and it was relatively easy to administrate and use.  The 
> problems came in when we cleaned up the trees you always end up with 
> these empty branches because you're not supposed to delete directories 
> so you can return to older branches that had them. Also when we needed to 
> switch from one branch of OE Linux to another it was a
> nightmare.   Of course there are ways to deal with this but if you're going
> to get that technical with Subversion (SVN) you might as well go with 
> my last choice and the one I use for all my projects, my work, home 
> business game server, and many other things like wiki's.  I much 
> rather write text files and use it than edit web pages.
> So the last and greatest tool is git it is also hard to learn.  It has 
> windows gui and command line and Linux command lines.  It also is the 
> basis of repo which is what they use for the android repositories.  
> You have so many tools in git because it follows the old Linux one 
> command for one operation. It allows people to extend it which I am 
> sure the others do but this is just much cleaner. You don't run into 
> the visual empty directories like you do in cvs and you can delete 
> stuff like nobody's business and never know it's still hanging around.  
> You never really change the base repository you only have an alias to 
> it well a copy per say the copy is kind of fussy because you can 
> switch between different branches in seconds and stash temp branches 
> with ease.  This system is not for the faint of heart but once you 
> learn to use it you will find yourself doing things that I am sure it 
> was not originally designed to do.  For example I have a backup git 
> repo that I can push to my Linux server on my windows box.  I just 
> throw files in it all day long and at the end of the day I do 
> something like git push $(date -s) and wam I have a handy quick daily 
> backup.  The neat thing is even if I delete a file I can dig through 
> my commits and find them.  Sure it takes up a lot of space on my 
> server but you know what?  I have 2 tera bites of data think I care?  
> You can easily change between one named branch or tag if your thinking 
> svn or cvs you can stash stuff you just wrote to test something and it will 
> return you to the original branch.  I could go on for hours about all the 
> little toys you have from being able to revert to 2 commits back but
> not without the 14 and 10th  com      mit. It just has really powerful
> commands.  It was originally written for the Linux OS because the  
> others didn't allow for 10 people to have their own copy of a repo and 
> for each person to be able to pull changes from each other without 
> messing up the master branch.  You can push remote branches where others can 
> check it out.
> When I am working on Android I can actually switch from googles branch 
> to Cyanagan, to ours in about 3 seconds and pull files from each and 
> diff our files with either.  Then trash everything I don't want and 
> get it back later.  So anyway I whole hardily say learn git there are 
> books out there and as you get started its easy enough to get a repo 
> started but you won't find the power for weeks.
> Ken
> -----Original Message-----
> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of David 
> Mehler
> Sent: Friday, August 05, 2011 10:12 PM
> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Version control
> Hello,
> I'm using a windows machine and am wanting to start some programming 
> projects mostly for personal use. I have been reading up on version 
> control and can see it's use. I am wondering if anyone onlist uses it, 
> if so what, and how you like it?
> Thanks.
> Dave.
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