Re: Version control
- From: David Mehler <dave.mehler@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2011 23:23:58 -0400
Hello,
Thanks. I'll check out that book.
Dave.
On 8/5/11, Ken Perry <whistler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> Git uses ssh if you want to in fact I think it is default ssh. I use
> nothing but ssh keys with my repo's. You can have open repositories though.
> OK as for a book "Git Book" is what I started with it is at:
>
> http://book.git-scm.com/1_welcome_to_git.html
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of David Mehler
> Sent: Friday, August 05, 2011 10:51 PM
> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: Version control
>
> Hello,
>
> Thank you everyone for your replies. I'm liking GIT as I'm on windows
> at the moment, but don't always have this box, and my server is a
> linux server which I do like the idea of being able to pull my code.
>
> First question, books on git, can you recommend some good ones?
>
> Secondly, network communication say between my laptop and my server on
> the internet, how is that handled? Is it encrypted or clear?
>
> Just thought of another one, do either git or subversion integrate
> with any development tools/environments?
>
> Any more suggestions please keep them coming.
> Thanks.
> Dave.
>
>
> On 8/5/11, Ken Perry <whistler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> I use it for work, home business, and home projects. I will go down the
>> list of the three I have used most of all and the two I suggest and why.
>> People need not argue I am just stating my opinions.
>>
>> First I started back in 90 with CVS and it was the hot and going thing. I
>> would not suggest using it because it's a nightmare to reconfigure
> projects,
>> delete branches, handle tag tagging and many other problems. It is
> however
>> well documented and supported on all platforms it just is a nightmare and
>> not as powerful as the next two.
>>
>> The one I used up till last year on work and home business projects is
>> Subversion. It has a really nice windows, Gui and command line and linux
>> command line interface. It is very quick to set up. The tags and
> branching
>> is pretty simple but limited when you start diverging and deleting a lot.
>> Of course there are some power commands to take care of that like you can
>> export a clean tree and start over but there are still power issues with
>> this. I would though suggest subversion if you're not getting into
> programs
>> that are multi binary multi repo. With that said we used subversion for
> a
>> very difficult project including OE Linux, and entire software stack and
>> more shared libraries than I can number and it was relatively easy to
>> administrate and use. The problems came in when we cleaned up the trees
> you
>> always end up with these empty branches because you're not supposed to
>> delete directories so you can return to older branches that had them. Also
>> when we needed to switch from one branch of OE Linux to another it was a
>> nightmare. Of course there are ways to deal with this but if you're
> going
>> to get that technical with Subversion (SVN) you might as well go with my
>> last choice and the one I use for all my projects, my work, home business
>> game server, and many other things like wiki's. I much rather write text
>> files and use it than edit web pages.
>> So the last and greatest tool is git it is also hard to learn. It has
>> windows gui and command line and Linux command lines. It also is the
> basis
>> of repo which is what they use for the android repositories. You have so
>> many tools in git because it follows the old Linux one command for one
>> operation. It allows people to extend it which I am sure the others do but
>> this is just much cleaner. You don't run into the visual empty directories
>> like you do in cvs and you can delete stuff like nobody's business and
> never
>> know it's still hanging around. You never really change the base
> repository
>> you only have an alias to it well a copy per say the copy is kind of fussy
>> because you can switch between different branches in seconds and stash
> temp
>> branches with ease. This system is not for the faint of heart but once
> you
>> learn to use it you will find yourself doing things that I am sure it was
>> not originally designed to do. For example I have a backup git repo that
> I
>> can push to my Linux server on my windows box. I just throw files in it
> all
>> day long and at the end of the day I do something like git push $(date -s)
>> and wam I have a handy quick daily backup. The neat thing is even if I
>> delete a file I can dig through my commits and find them. Sure it takes
> up
>> a lot of space on my server but you know what? I have 2 tera bites of
> data
>> think I care? You can easily change between one named branch or tag if
> your
>> thinking svn or cvs you can stash stuff you just wrote to test something
> and
>> it will return you to the original branch. I could go on for hours about
>> all the little toys you have from being able to revert to 2 commits back
> but
>> not without the 14 and 10th com mit. It just has really powerful
>> commands. It was originally written for the Linux OS because the others
>> didn't allow for 10 people to have their own copy of a repo and for each
>> person to be able to pull changes from each other without messing up the
>> master branch. You can push remote branches where others can check it
> out.
>> When I am working on Android I can actually switch from googles branch to
>> Cyanagan, to ours in about 3 seconds and pull files from each and diff our
>> files with either. Then trash everything I don't want and get it back
>> later. So anyway I whole hardily say learn git there are books out there
>> and as you get started its easy enough to get a repo started but you won't
>> find the power for weeks.
>>
>> Ken
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of David Mehler
>> Sent: Friday, August 05, 2011 10:12 PM
>> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: Version control
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I'm using a windows machine and am wanting to start some programming
>> projects mostly for personal use. I have been reading up on version
>> control and can see it's use. I am wondering if anyone onlist uses it,
>> if so what, and how you like it?
>>
>> Thanks.
>> Dave.
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