RE: Using Microsoft Compilers to compile Java native libraries
- From: "Sina Bahram" <sbahram@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2011 10:51:58 -0500
Yes, from the jdk. It's already on your computer, presumably. No downloading or
anything involved.
Take care,
Sina
-----Original Message-----
From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of John J. Boyer
Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2011 10:02 AM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Using Microsoft Compilers to compile Java native libraries
I thought you said I would have to get them somewhere.
John
On Sat, Feb 05, 2011 at 09:11:46AM -0500, Sina Bahram wrote:
> They come with the jdk
>
> Take care,
> Sina
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of John J. Boyer
> Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2011 9:04 AM
> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: Using Microsoft Compilers to compile Java native libraries
>
> On Linux I can get jni.h and jni-md.h by installing a gcc extension.
> Isn't something like that available for Windows?
>
> I'm wondering iif the problem with that Microsoft page isn't that it is
> not accessible but that it i9s almost unusable by anyone. My sighted
> assistants have encountered lots of such pages.
>
> John
>
> On Sat, Feb 05, 2011 at 08:49:23AM -0500, Jamal Mazrui wrote:
> > Hi Laura,
> > That was one of the least accessible pages I have encountered on the
> > Microsoft site! Yes, it should work if you install .NET 4. Note that
> > EdSharp and FileDir also have a command for changing environment
> > variables, Control+E.
> >
> > Jamal
> >
> >
> > On 2/4/2011 11:11 PM, qubit wrote:
> > >Hi Jamal --
> > >Thank you for hunting this one down. I think the info will help list
> > >members a lot. I'm a bit relieved I was not the only one battling the
> > >accessibility of those pages.
> > >I downloaded the installer from your previous mail ), and tried running it,
> > >but it couldn't proceed until I install dotnet4. So if I install dotnet4
> > >and then the vs 10 express, then this latest C++ compiler, I should have
> > >everything?
> > >
> > >As for editing the path variable on windows, I usually do that in the
> > >advanced tab of the system properties. There is a button for
> > >changing/viewing environment variables, at least this works on XP. I am
> > >still learning windows7.
> > >
> > >Happy hacking.
> > >--le
> > >
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: "Jamal Mazrui"<empower@xxxxxxxxx>
> > >To:<programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > >Cc: "John J. Boyer"<john.boyer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > >Sent: Friday, February 04, 2011 9:38 PM
> > >Subject: Re: Using Microsoft Compilers to compile Java native libraries
> > >
> > >
> > >My information about the C++ compiler and the Windows SDK was based on
> > >this web page:
> > >
> > >Development Resources in the Windows SDK
> > >http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ff660763.aspx
> > >
> > >An excerpt reads as follows:
> > >"The new Windows compilers and CRT for the x86, x64, and Itanium (IA64)
> > >operating systems are included in the Windows SDK and integrated into
> > >its command-line build environment. These compilers and CRT are the same
> > >as those that are included in Visual Studio 2010."
> > >
> > >After installing the Windows SDK, however, I also could not find the C++
> > >compiler.
> > >
> > >I then tried to download and install Visual C++ Express Edition, which
> > >is also supposed to include the command-line compiler. It took about a
> > >half hour and some luck to start the download due to the inaccessibility
> > >of that web page! To make it easier for others, I have now put a copy
> > >of the installer at
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >http://EmpowermentZone.com/vc_web.exe
> > >
> > >
> > >It is the type of installer that connects to a web source at runtime,
> > >rather than containing the components to install, itself, so one should
> > >get the latest directly from Microsoft even if the installer is obtained
> > >from the above link.
> > >
> > >By default, the C++ compiler will be placed in this location:
> > >c:\program Files\Microsoft Visual Studio 10.0\VC\bin\cl.exe
> > >
> > >Instructions on registering Visual C++ 2010 Express are here:
> > >http://www.microsoft.com/express/support/regins/
> > >
> > >It is probably not necessary to register if one is just using the
> > >command-line compiler rather than the IDE, but I am not sure. Note that
> > >certain directories containing .dll files need to be on the Windows
> > >search path for cl.exe to work. There is an option in the Windows Start
> > >Menu that sets the path appropriately at a command prompt, but this
> > >could also be done in other ways.
> > >
> > >Jamal
> > >
> > >
> > >On 2/4/2011 4:55 PM, John J. Boyer wrote:
> > >>This is great information. I have something in my Program Files (x86)
> > >>folder called Microsoft SDKs. It has a lot of exe files in its bin
> > >>directory. I don't see cl.exe but I do see lc.exe and also rc.exe Is the
> > >>compiler there somewhere? Is there a 64-bit version? The one I have has
> > >>an x64 directory, but it seems to be empty.
> > >>
> > >>John
> > >>
> > >>On Fri, Feb 04, 2011 at 03:52:39PM -0500, Jamal Mazrui wrote:
> > >>>I looked into this, and did not find the C++ command-line compiler
> > >>>distributed with .NET 4, even though the C#, Visual Basic .NET, and
> > >>>JScript .NET compilers are distributed that way, located in the
> > >>>directory
> > >>>c:\windows\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v4.0.30319
> > >>>
> > >>>Based on web research, the C++ 2010 command-line compiler is included in
> > >>>the latest Windows SDK, downloadable from this page:
> > >>>
> > >>>Microsoft Windows SDK for Windows 7 and .NET Framework 4 -
> > >>>http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/en/details.aspx?FamilyID=6b6c21d2-2006-4afa-9702-529fa782d63b&displaylang=en
> > >>>
> > >>>Jamal
> > >>>On
> > >>>Fri, 4 Feb
> > >>>2011,
> > >>>John J. Boyer wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>>Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 14:00:40 -0600
> > >>>>From: John J. Boyer<john.boyer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > >>>>Reply-To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >>>>To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >>>>Subject: Re: Using Microsoft Compilers to compile Java native libraries
> > >>>>
> > >>>>This sounds good, but does .Net include the command-line compiler,
> > >>>>linker, etc.? My understanding is that with these tools we would be able
> > >>>>to create make and rc files and then just run them with a .bat file to
> > >>>>create either 32 or 64 bit versions of the libraries. Only some header
> > >>>>files would need to be changed, and this could be explained in a short
> > >>>>README file. Once we have the necessary files porting new releases
> > >>>>should be easy.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>John
> > >>>>
> > >>>>On Fri, Feb 04, 2011 at 02:25:25PM -0500, James Homme wrote:
> > >>>>>Hi,
> > >>>>>I'd like to have the message that talks about this. According to my
> > >>>>>memory, Jamal wrote a utility that gets the .Net SDK files for you.
> > >>>>>Maybe
> > >>>>>you can find it on nonvisualdevelopment.org. I'll dig around to see if
> > >>>>>I
> > >>>>>saved that announcement.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>Jim
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>Jim Homme,
> > >>>>>Usability Services,
> > >>>>>Phone: 412-544-1810. Skype: jim.homme
> > >>>>>Internal recipients, Read my accessibility blog. Discuss accessibility
> > >>>>>here. Accessibility Wiki: Breaking news and accessibility advice
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>-----Original Message-----
> > >>>>>From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >>>>>[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of qubit
> > >>>>>Sent: Friday, February 04, 2011 1:40 PM
> > >>>>>To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >>>>>Subject: Re: Using Microsoft Compilers to compile Java native libraries
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>Hi John -- Have you tried downloading it? I dropped it temporarily, but
> > >>>>>after a day of poking around on that site I concluded finding the
> > >>>>>executable
> > >>>>>is a nontrivial exercise for jaws.
> > >>>>>I'll go back again and look around, which may yield success as I
> > >>>>>believe
> > >>>>>there was an internet problem last weekend with the weather.
> > >>>>>--le
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>----- Original Message -----
> > >>>>>From: "John J. Boyer"<john.boyer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > >>>>>To:<programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > >>>>>Sent: Friday, February 04, 2011 6:47 AM
> > >>>>>Subject: Using Microsoft Compilers to compile Java native libraries
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>For the BrailleBlaster project we need to compile the liblouis and
> > >>>>>liblouisutdml libraries for various platforms. In looking at the source
> > >>>>>code for the Windows native libraries used by SWT I see that they use
> > >>>>>cl
> > >>>>>nmake rc and I think link at the command line. There is also a .bat
> > >>>>>file
> > >>>>>that can produce either 32 or 64 bit code. Unfortunately, there is no
> > >>>>>inndiccation of which version of the compiler they used. I've been
> > >>>>>trying to find the 2010 version of Visual Studio with the command line
> > >>>>>without success. Of course an earlier version will work if it is
> > >>>>>capable
> > >>>>>of both architectures and can supply the jni.h header. Does anyone have
> > >>>>>a direct URL to download it?
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>I don't think you need a Windows Live ID, regardless of what the
> > >>>>>Microsoft page says. That page is an example of a website with awful
> > >>>>>usability. This is a separate issue from accessibility. I wonder how
> > >>>>>they can get away with it.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>Thanks,
> > >>>>>John
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>--
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