Re: Survey: An SDK for proprietary systems
- From: Chris Hofstader <cdh@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 12:08:29 -0500
Who makes the Braille Plus?
On Dec 11, 2009, at 11:35 AM, Ken Perry wrote:
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> Oh one more thing to make this fit the program list. The Braille+ is the
> only blind PDA that has an IDE that you can use on the machine without a PC
> so you can actually develop software on the device. Using python. The
> developer currently has things like a quick function list to jump from
> function to function. Search options projects, auto indent and indention
> level announcement and more.
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> Ken
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> Ken
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
> Nick.Adamson@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 4:08 AM
> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: Survey: An SDK for proprietary systems
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> Hi Ken.
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> I've not come across these note takers and didn't find anything on
> Google, is there a website I can read about them?
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> Thanks.
> Nick.
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ken Perry
> Sent: 11 December 2009 05:23
> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: Survey: An SDK for proprietary systems
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> Well you might not think they are popular but I have pretty good inside
> information that they sell just as good as the others. The only thing
> they currently lack is a gps solution. They far out stretch the others
> when it comes to the calculator and even the web browser is much better
> even though being that its Linux it has its problems not being able to
> currently play wma None of the others even come close to the ease in
> which the BP and Icon connect to the internet. Not to mention when it
> comes to popular you would be amazed when you can get both a Braille
> display and the device for under 3500$ it far beats the others in price.
> Not only that but the coding team both uses and cares about the product.
> I could go on but your statement about popular note takers just doesn't
> fit what I know the sales to be of the BP, Icon and the RB18.
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> Ken
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> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
> Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 11:14 PM
> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: Survey: An SDK for proprietary systems
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> Hi,
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> I was talking about the three popular ones - BrailleNote, Braille Sense
> and PAC Mate. (Thanks for reminding about Icon though).
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> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ken Perry
> Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 6:58 PM
> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: Survey: An SDK for proprietary systems
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> This is not true braille plus and Icon can do third party software
> anything that runs on OE linux and anything someone wants to write in
> python.
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> Ken
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> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
> Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 4:58 PM
> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Survey: An SDK for proprietary systems
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> Dear programmers and engineers,
>
> This is Joseph Lee, a computer science student at University of
> California, Riverside. The reason for writing this post is to gather
> your thoughts and opinions about a subject that I think a lot of you
> would be familiar with.
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> As of 2009, we have numerous blindness PDA's and notetakers on the
> market, such as BrailleNote from HumanWare, Braille Sense from HIMS/GW
> Micro and PAC Mate from Freedom Scientific. Off all these products, only
> PAC Mate allows development of third-party software via SDK's and IDE
> for Windows Mobile, such as Visual Studio and BASIC4PPC. For other
> products, there is no SDK for KeySoft (BrailleNote) for individuals and
> an SDK exists for Braille Sense (in language other than English).
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> As a student, I thought I could use my BrailleNote as a "test platform"
> to develop programs for KeySoft and practice programming skills with it.
> However, when I enquired about availability of keySoft SDK (via asking
> another person to ask for me), the only response was that only companies
> who shows interest in BrailleNote can consult with HumanWare for writing
> programs for BrailleNote. A notable example is BrailleNote GPS from
> Sendero Group. In other words, there is no widely available SDK so that
> an individual can write external applications for KeySoft (just like
> Blazie programmers had done and PAC Mate programmers are doing now).
> While I was thinking about this, I remembered this list, thus deciding
> to appeal to you as to what should I (and other potential student
> programmers) who are BN users should do (in order to persuade HumanWare
> so that an individual can write external software with a widely
> available SDK for KeySoft). This persuasion, if successful with
> HumanWare, could work with HIMS/GW Micro to port Braille Sense SDK to
> English.
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> I thought of this list mostly because we have programmers who have
> experience with this kind of issue, thus can give us (students and users
> of these systems) some recommendations as to what we should do.
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> ]Here are the issues at hand:
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> * If we want competetiveness, I believe that an SDK for
> BrailleNote should be widely available (with a cost) so that individual
> programmers can develop useful programs for it.
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> * With the availability of this SDK, blind programmers can write
> programs for the blind - thus giving back to the BrailleNote user
> community.
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> * In case of an SDK for Braille Sense, if an SDK is available in
> one language (in this case, Korean), then I believe that it should be
> available in English as well (where we have more potential for useful
> external utilities).
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> So I (and others) would like to ask you as to your opinions and
> recommendations as to what we should do next (as a collective action).
> Thank you for your considerations.
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> Sincerely,
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> Joseph S. Lee
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> University of California, Riverside
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