Hay Das: Are you using Excell or is this a Windows or other Language project? Just wondering as it sounds interesting and I might want to add it to my analysis to watch for possible market changes or individual issue changes by popping up a notification if one of the limits are broken. It might just be an interesting thing since I have never gotten much into technicals, Fundementals has been my bread and butter, but technicals might be a good adjunct to them from time to time if I am watching to buy or sell something.
Rick USA----- Original Message ----- From: "DaShiell, Jude T. CIV NAVAIR 1490, 1, 26" <jude.dashiell@xxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2010 12:10 PM Subject: RE: Stock market One algorithm in use by chart analyzers these days takes as input 6 month or 180 day moving average figures then applies the Bollinger curve to that data which removes the central 97.5% of the data. When moving averages either go above or below that 97.5% it's considered a sign that market direction is about to change. That 97.5% is 3 standard deviations and that data gets removed to wipe out the noise. I haven't got this particular analysis tool working yet. -----Original Message----- From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of RicksPlace Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2010 12:03 To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: Stock market Hay Black: Send me your email address again. Here is my off-list: ofbgmail@xxxxxxxxx Mabey I am doing something wrong. Rick USA----- Original Message ----- From: "black ares" <matematicianu2003@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2010 11:59 AM Subject: Re: Stock market
what is the matter with the database engine? Can I see that application? Can I help you in develop it further? And to answer a question you've asked before, I didn't received any
invite
in your group. Best Regards----- Original Message ----- From: "RicksPlace" <ofbgmail@xxxxxxxxx>To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2010 6:26 PM Subject: Re: Stock marketI have a rather massive application for researching investments
developed
in VWD and converted to Vb.net. One version uses Sql Server and the
other
the Compact edition. I wonder if I made another version if using an MsAccess DB would let my system be compatable with yours? Rick USA----- Original Message ----- From: "DaShiell, Jude T. CIV NAVAIR 1490, 1, 26"
<jude.dashiell@xxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2010 11:23 AM Subject: RE: Stock market When I last did a software accessibility survey for screen readers on financial and stock market analysis software the results were very disappointing. When I got into investing I ended up doing my own spreadsheets to handle what analysis I needed to do on the market. A couple things I didn't bother including on any of those spreadsheets were charts and graphs. I work better with tables and explicit
numeric
and percentile ranges though. I suppose it would be possible to do histograms and bar graphs with ascii characters on spreadsheets but I never got around to doing that. With some good analysis algorithms,
it
might be possible to write a few accessible projects along these
lines
if anyone were interested in doing that. -----Original Message----- From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of qubit Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2010 11:08 To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: Stock market I hate to rub it in if there is someone here that lost money during
the
crash, but I had all my retirement in guaranteed interest (cd) funds
and
no stock and it stayed pretty much the same while everyone else lost a
load
of money. And all the time the investment people were asking me for permission to take my savings and invest it. I refused. Well my approach was
ultra
conservative -- near zero risk. Sometimes that is a good idea. I
don't
trust the stock market or the people who want to play with my savings. (I am letting them invest a little now, but I am so wary they don't
dare
do anything to sink my boat...) Good luck all. Maybe there is dawn on the horizon for the stock
market,
maybe not. I just hope for the best for the most people. --le----- Original Message ----- From: "Bryan Schulz" <b.schulz@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2010 9:22 AM Subject: Re: Stock market tell that to people that used the system that has worked for over 50 years and lost half of their 401k when the market crashed. Bryan Schulz----- Original Message ----- From: "black ares" <matematicianu2003@xxxxxxxxxxx>To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2010 12:34 AM Subject: Re: Stock marketyep, that is a known rule stated as: "don't put all of your eggs in the same bag".----- Original Message ----- From: "RicksPlace" <ofbgmail@xxxxxxxxx>To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 11:19 PM Subject: Re: Stock marketOne point, if you have all your retirement funds in the company youworkfor what happens if they go belly up or can not afford to pay you
the
funds from the fund when you need them because of som unforseen obligation or default by the companies or funds they have your
money
in?You are doing what allot of folks do and it has proven fatle to
many
employees with their retirement funds all in the companies they
work
for.The only reason to have them invest your funds is if they give youfreemoney. If they match each dollar you put into their fund with some
of
their own money then you take it, stay in the fund with whatever
the
minimum balance is to keep getting the free money and pull the
funds
outwhen you can. You then pick a good investment to store yourretirementfunds. You allocate some of them to a fund of broad investments,
some
toanother type of investment like income or commodities funds so thatifone fund does not do well the other ones will. This does not takeallotof knowledge nor money since most the better retirement vehicles
have
lowinvestment requirements, offer good management and you look for
ones
withthe lowest fees. Look at gthe Vanguard Group. When almost all theothermajor brokerage house were skimming pennies from their clientsVanguardwas not. There was another instance where the Investment companieswereinvolved in some shady transactions but Vanguard stayed out. Most recently many of the Major players had leveraged their funds beyondgoodsense and used higher risk investments to get returns. Vanguard didnot.There are some big ones like Fidelity and a few others who have hadsomeshady stuff but have remained mostely clean and the funds of reallyhardhit companies like Hartford and others are rated as pretty safe buttheyhold allot of bad debt so who knows. The trick is to find the best
3
fundfamilies, or one good one, then spred your money out over 3 or 4fundsthat use diferent asset classes. An Asset class is like common
stocks
forgrowth, Common Stocks for dividends, bonds, trusts, International
or
Global and Commodities. That gives you the best chance of retiringwith abunch of money. Youdid what allot of folks did. You took a flyer,
hit
itbig, $300 on a small trade sounds big if it is made in a day on asmallinvestment, and then thought you could do that all the time. TheGamblingcasinos make money whether suckers win or lose, so do all thecompanieson Wall Street that you pay to invest your funds. If you have less than say $10,000 I would just use one of theVanguardfunds, likely 2 or 3 by putting $2,000 to $3,000 in each of 3 fundstodiversify your asset classes. Then periodically I would pull moneyout ofmy retirement fund at work and allocate it to my new funds. That isifyou can do that without taking too much a hit. Rick USA----- Original Message ----- From: "qubit" <lauraeaves@xxxxxxxxx>To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 3:04 PM Subject: Re: Stock marketYes, and that is why I have decided to leave the investment to the company managing my retirement money -- I once decided to try day trading,gotan account on an investment site and took out an IRA to invest for starters. I started getting all this email on good stock picks -- I mean,companiesI never heard of, penny stocks, etc. I bought a bunch of shares on
one
andmade $300 in a week and was feeling good about that -- but then Igotinvolved in other things and left it sitting, and in the end when
I
wentback, the company had gone belly up and I lost the entire amount. So if you don't spend a good amount of time researching you can
get
bitten. I chose to let someone else spend the time... That is my warning to anyone starting. Happy stock picking... --le----- Original Message ----- From: "RicksPlace" <ofbgmail@xxxxxxxxx>To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 1:17 PM Subject: Re: Stock market Hi Black: Right on. Read, learn and practice for at least a yearbeforeplopping any real mony down. There are real dangers out there andthoseguys are looking for beginners who understand a little about how themarketworks and Financials and Business Processes. They feast on these folks! The one truism in it all is, you stand to make a return based on
how
much risk you are willing to take. That is if you can believe theFinancialsand the folks putting them out for the various companies. That is
where
history and reputation comes into play. There are the day traders as wellandthey don't care anything about a company, tnot what it does or what
their
Balance Sheet looks like or if they even post one, just how the stock
price
andvolume appear according to a chart or how it is trending in daily trading if they use automated trading platforms. I think it is a very good thing for young folks to invest becausetheycan see massive positive results over their working lives but they
need
tobe careful, do their homework and pick stocks, bonds, real estate
and,
orfunds carefully and keep informed about what is going on with everyinvestmentperiodically.Black, you should join the blindfinance list as well
if
youare an investor since there are some pretty experienced blind folksfloatingaround there. It is usually a very quiet list unless someone has a question
about
something. Rick USA----- Original Message ----- From: "black ares" <matematicianu2003@xxxxxxxxxxx>To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 12:48 PM Subject: Re: Stock marketYou don't university education for investing is true, but you
need
education for investing this is also true. So, if you don't have the oportunity to learn those things in the university, you must take in your own hands the trouble witheducateyour self in that direction. Depends what you want to do. If you want let other to play with your money, you can go on themutualfunds way. The is a little risk, but the gains are on the same way, small. If you want to manipulate your own money and you want this if youwantto earn much, you must be financial educated. You must know tointerpretfinancial statements, to compute interests like roa, roe etc. To be business educated, to understand business processes. For example, when a company fires employees, the productivity temporarily encrease and so the stock price. Best way to go, is to financial educate and business educate, totestyour skills in a real environment, but only to simulate, not to playreal.After I will start a small business, I would encrease it, go withitpublic and finally sell it.----- Original Message ----- From: "RicksPlace" <ofbgmail@xxxxxxxxx>To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 5:25 PM Subject: Re: Stock marketNonsense! There is absolutely no reason for a UniversityEducation toinvest in the Stock market. It might help with technical analysis or fundemental analysis
but
99percent of investors invest in commercially available products
or
pickstocks based on recommendations or other things. ETFs, Funds and Mutual funds are the only way to go for a small investor and they paymanythousands, millions, to people who have the formal Education topickindividual stocks. Rick USA----- Original Message ----- From: "DaShiell, Jude T. CIV NAVAIR 1490, 1, 26"<jude.dashiell@xxxxxxxx> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 9:03 AM Subject: RE: Stock market A college course on Investing is going to be your best bet forseveralreasons. A course on consumer awareness would be a fineprerequisitealong with a year of statistics to that investment course. Publications that teach you how to read and interpret a balance sheet will
come
inuseful along the way too. Anything else you do outside of acollegesetting will be aimed at sales and have their own agendas to
push.
Young students traditionally haven't got much to invest so thesalespitches tend to get turned off when that crowd gets taught. -----Original Message----- From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Celia
Rodriguez Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 1:19 To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Stock market Hi everyone, Sorry for the off the subject topic, but I am interested in the stock market. I only have one little tiny,problem,I know nothing about the subject. I would like to start
researching
thesubject, but I do not know where to begin. If someone can pointme inthe right direction I would greatly appreciate it. If you have any suggestions or tips can you please write me off line at celia-rodriguez@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Thank you in advance. Celia __________ View the list's information and change your settings at //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind __________ View the list's information and change your settings at //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind__________ View the list's information and change your settings at //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind__________ View the list's information and change your settings at //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind __________ View the list's information and change your settings at //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind__________ View the list's information and change your settings at //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind__________ View the list's information and change your settings at //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind__________ View the list's information and change your settings at //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind __________ View the list's information and change your settings at //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind __________ View the list's information and change your settings at //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind __________ View the list's information and change your settings at //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind__________ View the list's information and change your settings at //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind
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