Brent, I have personally seen the VA hire people into programming positions who have NO programming experience. The VA uses many software products (think Microsoft) along with MUMPS (sometimes called just M). They commonly train new programming hires to do things their way and MUMPS is easy to learn for anyone with previous programming experience. They sometimes allow telecommuting. They have been known to occasionally pay relocation expenses. Best wishes, Bob ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brent Neal" <bneal@xxxxxxxx> To: <ProgrammingBlind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, June 09, 2008 6:30 AM Subject: Need Help Finding Programming Job As I said in a previous message I loose my job at the end of June or the first part of July. I was responsible for NETSS which is a disease reporting system written in epi info. Since there is little to no demand for this language I took Java classes and certified as an Auricle DBA. The state has had other state agencies interview me but they say because I have no hands on experience with Oracle or Java I do not qualify for their positions. Most of the jobs also include designing web systems and they say my special equipment which is JAWS and a Braille Display does not work well enough to perform these tasks. I also checked the Freedom Scientific job openings and they want C++ experience not Java. I worked for IBM for 6 years and the state for 13.5 and now cannot find a job. Is there any chance of getting a job without hands on experience? Does JAWS work well enough with Oracle for a blind person to be an effective DBA or does it depend on what kind of system Oracle is on? I could not get JAWS to read the Oracle GUI on the PC Oracle practice system. __________ View the list's information and change your settings at //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind __________ View the list's information and change your settings at //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind