Re: KeySoft: a modern version under current OS's
- From: Alex Hall <mehgcap@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 19:47:14 -0400
Exciting, I did not know that. On a programming front: how did you get
Python to create an entire front-end interfacing with a kernel in C? A
lot of CAPI usage I assume?
On 9/9/10, Ken Perry <whistler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Yes.
>
> Ken
>
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>
> Wait, you are saying this thing has a full SDK? I know it is
> Linux-based, but I mean you can code for it and integrate with the
> keyboard and other hardware?
>
> On 9/9/10, Ken Perry <whistler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> Again the Braille+ with no Braille display is 1395$ , with Braille
> display
>> 18 cell that also works with Iphone and Ipad etc. add 1695$. Now as for
>> your question about word processor we have a word processor we wrote. It
>> has a python front end and supports full Braille translation backward
>> forward mixed etc. Both units fit in a case which we are now selling that
>> is the size of a vcr folded over on itself. It speaks using Elequence and
> I
>> wrote the tuner program for it before I even got the job with APH because
>> there is even a developer / IDE for the device that you can code directly
> on
>> the device on.
>>
>> I am not saying this thing is a full replace meant for a computer but I
> went
>> all csun and only logged on to my windows box 2 times to voice chat with
> my
>> wife because currently the Braille+ does not support voice chat.
>>
>> Ken
>>
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>> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Alex Midence
>> Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 12:16 PM
>> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: Re: KeySoft: a modern version under current OS's
>>
>> Good god! That's a lot of memory! How much does one of these puppies
>> set a man back? My bs 32 (no pun intended) was like 3 grand, I think.
>> I got it from my state commission. Does braille plus have a way to
>> save in .doc formats and the like? Where's a website I can look at
>> its features. I am enormously intrigued. What's the wordprocessor?
>> Emacspeak? Technically not a word processor but, ... I bet it can be
>> made to serve the same purpose.
>>
>> Alex M
>>
>>
>>
>> On 9/9/10, Ken Perry <whistler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>> Oh one more thing about the Braille plus it has a 60 GB 1.8 inch drive I
>>> carry about 40 gb of music on mine right now.
>>>
>>> Ken
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>>> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
>>> Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 3:47 AM
>>> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Subject: RE: KeySoft: a modern version under current OS's
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>> You'd have 8 GB under BSP. The only linux-based one I know of is
>>> Icon/Braille Plus.
>>> Cheers,
>>> Joseph
>>>
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>>> Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 12:44 AM
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>>> Subject: Re: KeySoft: a modern version under current OS's
>>>
>>> You know, it would be really awesome if someone came up with a braille
>>> note taker that ran on linux. I have a braille sense plus 32 and it
>>> has 16 gb of on board memory. You just need 1 or 2 gigs to run a
>>> vinux distro on a machine. It seems a waste to only have these
>>> devices run on windows mobile or, worse, as in the case of the bs 32,
>>> windows CE. They could implement their own desktop specifically
>>> taylored to the machine with their own apps on it but still give the
>>> user access to the command line interface and all the apps and tools
>>> that run in that. Wish I had a note taker I wasn't using and the
>>> funds not to go all shaky at the thought of experimenting with such an
>>> expensive device. Might provide hours of fun tinkering.
>>>
>>> Alex M
>>>
>>>
>>> On 9/9/10, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>> Hi Alex,
>>>> That's my point as well: why spend time on it when there are
> alternatives
>>>> availible? as it is, the current keysoft.exe was specialized to a given
>>>> platform and OS combinations. Writing a modern port of old KS would mean
>>>> re-defining programming strategies to take advantage of new CPU's, as
>> well
>>>> as redesigning interface and algorithms to give users a feell of using a
>>>> BrailleNote app on modern computers.
>>>> From what I read on the BrailleNote List on Wednsday and after
> consulting
>>>> former and current KeySoft developers, I came to the conclusion that it
>>> can
>>>> be done in theory, but creating such a clone is far from reality at this
>>>> point. I'd say a word from Jamal, Tyler and other expert programmers
>> might
>>>> resolve this situation.
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Joseph
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
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>>>> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Alex Midence
>>>> Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 12:25 AM
>>>> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> Subject: Re: KeySoft: a modern version under current OS's
>>>>
>>>> Now, that's a blast from the past. I used Key Soft in high school
>>>> back in the early 1990's. My very first laptop was a Keynote
>>>> (predates keynote gold which I drooled over but never got). I can see
>>>> that app doing well in linux but am hard pressed to see how it would
>>>> be worth the trouble to prot to windows xp or windows 7. There are
>>>> many better mainstream alternatives to choose from. Linux, though
>>>> would probably be a good place for it since accessible applications
>>>> are fewer there from what I've been able to find. MIght be a nice
>>>> addition to Vinux.
>>>>
>>>> Alex M
>>>>
>>>> On 9/8/10, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>> Hi folks,
>>>>> Someone on the BrailleNote List is looking to port KeySoft for
> DOS/Win95
>>>> to
>>>>> modern OS's such as Linux, Win7 and so forth. I think he is looking for
>>>>> someone to help him out with this task, with an eventual goal of
>>> releasing
>>>>> as an open-source product under GPL license.
>>>>> If you want to contact him, write to jkenn337@xxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Joseph
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