Hi Alex: Ya, it seems to me that MS has been tending away from accessibility as a root feature of their designs. I don't like one of the newer Project Managers of some of the more popular and critical software.
I found his attitude to be less thanenthusiastic when it comes to talking about or doing anything about Accessibility issues. He is really caught up in the new fun tools for sighted folks and, from what I can tell, spends very little brain power on accessibility of newer tools. Anyway, ssorry to hear they have a nasty captia too now. It almost seems things have been going down hill in the entire field of computer usage for blind folks lately but I've not seen much noise coming out of the big Blind Associations or Federations about it so I might be wrong. Anyway, if Visual Studio becomes too much a pain with a screen reader I might be forced to look into the world of non MS software but I really don't like that senario with all the various non or partially plug ins, software packages and everything needing to be tweaked to work with each other. That makes software dificult to develop, maintain and upgrade but I guess it is what it is. In Visual Studio I had a nice programming language, VB.net or CSharp, a couple of data bases that were native to the IDE with development and usage tools of all kinds, Visual Web Developer which again had complete integration with languages, massive features and data base stuff. It all is compatible and requires no messing around worrying about versioning, for the most part, diferent swing or other stuff to act as accessibility intermediaries between code and the screen reader which can also be problematic and all that jazz involving finding, installing and getting other data bases, form controls or website features including various management andtransaction processing stuff as well as session state for Websites and complex controls for both Websites and Desktop applications, plugins etc.... Add in the software to provide various connections between Websites and Desktop or Mobile apps which all have consistent and integrated functionallity in VS and thinking about piece mealing all that seems to be a real headache outside of basic coding of Applications Software. I hope MS gets back to making things accessible and compatible as they did in VS 2005 and 2008. That is I hope the new features of 2010 will be very accessible with the new version of Windoweyes when it comes out using the new Accessibility interface hooks, sigh. If GW does a good job the accessibility might be even better than it was and it was pretty good with Vs 2005 and 2008 with Windoweyes.
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On 10/9/10, RicksPlace <ofbgmail@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:Oh well, went to the sign up page and Google wants me to have an account andrequires a captia ythingy so screw it. The same old same old when going outside MS based environments, sigh.Tried setting up a live.com account recently? Oh, my god, man, the captcha on it is brutal brooooo---tahl! Took me like 955 years just to get my password set up on there. And, if you forget your password ... you gotta do it again. The audio captcha is hard to understand since they did a crappy job of mixing the tracks you are supposed to listen to with the gtarbled ones you are not. Highly stressfull! Oh, and have you tried sharepoint 2010's rich text editor while we are talking MS environments and accessibility? I could go on and on. They have accessibility issues up the wazoo too. Alex M __________ View the list's information and change your settings at //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind
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