I think on the grab bag there is a fruit basket example of using a flow just in the code. I think Jamal wrote it in either C# or VB either one will show you how to do it just by coding rather than using the form designer. Ken _____ From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ricks Place Sent: Monday, September 29, 2008 3:28 AM To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: FlowLayout and TableLayout Control Question Hi Guys: Just looking at the FlowLayout and TableLayout controls for a Winforms Application in Vb.net. In VWD I can work with my control positioning in the HTML Editor. How do I put controls like TextBoxes into these controls for laying out a Windows Form? So far I can only see how you would drop them into the appropriate cells, or on the panel, from the Forms Designer which I do not like working in with Windoweyes. If you use JAWS can you use the Forms Designer to locate the proper FlowLayout Panel and, or, the proper TableLayout Cells to drop a TextBox and Label pair into? I guess I am just asking a quick overview of using either control to drop a label and textbox into to layout a set of controls on a Winforms Form. I know how the layout controls work, properties and all that jazz, but what is the best method of getting Labels and TextBoxes into them? Is there a better way than using the Forms Designer?Thanks: Rick USA