Are there other programming tools that you know of?

  • From: "david ingram" <dingram269@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2009 12:12:02 -0500

Hi how are you?  I have some questions on what programming tools would help 
when it comes to learning and understanding the different programming 
languages?  I ask this question, because i've taken a couple of programming 
languages and i'd like to know if there is a way to learn more about different 
computer programming languages as well as what would be the best ways to use 
access technology to our advantage while programming in different computer 
languages for example basic, and c?  Colbalt was the next language, but I'd 
like to know if there is a computer language that comes close to the jaws 
scripting language and how to transfer the skills from the computer programming 
languages to the jaws scripting language?  I would appreciate any information 
that you might have?  P.S.  I'd also like to know if you may have heard of the 
w e a program?  I think that this is a program that people can take advantage 
of and i'm learning some things that people can go to get certified to do but 
the problem is that more people should know about such programs and how that 
can be used as a tool to help reach the goal of employment.

I appreciate your thaughts and comments.
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Andreas Stefik 
  To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ; Sodbeans 
  Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 11:37 AM
  Subject: Auditory interface ideas, what would help?


  Hello folks,

  We're getting pretty close here in our netbeans tools, possibly within the 
next few months, to adding some very nice auditory enhancements to NetBeans for 
blind users. I've got an overwhelming number of ideas about what could help, 
but I can't implement them all and would like to get some feedback from the 
community. Specifically, we're looking for some ideas in two main areas, code 
completion and auditory navigation.

  1. Code completion --- Whenever I've talked to folks in the past about code 
completion with audio, people have suggested that one of the most annoying 
issues with code completion is changes in focus. 

  Anyone have ideas about auditory code completion? Besides managing focus 
better, anyone have any ideas on how to make it more accessible?

  2. Auditory navigation --- I have a graduate student currently working on a 
blind code navigation system. Right now, the system allows you to jump around 
the source window and find variable declarations, method declarations, and 
other similar things, but we want to expand the navigation to make things 
easier.

  One idea I had, for example, was to make the navigation window "debugger 
sensitive" so that if you are navigating around while your code is executing, 
there will be audio that tells you more information about what you've browsed 
to. For example, if you navigate and land on a variable, it might tell you its 
name, type, and if the debugger is running, what its value is, or other 
information, depending on how much useful audio we can put into a short cue.

  But really, we're doing this project for this community. We genuinely want to 
make our tools as accessible as humanly possible, and we're going out of our 
way to make it so. If anyone has any ideas about what kind of tools would help 
you, go ahead and put them here, I'd love to hear about them!
  Obviously, we have limited development time, so it's unlikely we'll implement 
every suggestion, but brainstorming helps.

  Andreas Stefik, Ph.D.
  Department of Computer Science
  Southern Illinois University Edwardsville

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