[program-l] Re: MAC OS and Linux

  • From: "Steve Jacobson" <steve.jacobson@xxxxxxxx>
  • To: "program-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <program-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 05 Jan 2006 15:09:01 -0600

Mike,

It was a year and a half ago, but as I recall the statement was
a general one.  there was no breakdown as to which parts were
Linux and which were not, and the statment may have been a
functional one and not a specific comment regarding the kernel. 
there may also have been additional qualifiers that I may have
missed, not being an expert in this area.  

On Thu, 5 Jan 2006 15:36:09 -0500, Mike Gorse wrote:

>Did they say what part of it was based on Linux?  Were parts of the kernel 
>ported from Linux and applied to Mac OS X, or were some user-level programs 
>running on Linux ported to OS X and included with it?
>
>I'm going by what is on wikipedia and things I've read elsewhere, but I'm 
>fairly sure that the kernel used in OS X was derived from Mach, which was 
>apparently a research project started at CMU a few years before Linus 
>started developing Linux.  They are different in that Mach is a micro-kernel 
>while Linux is monolithic.
>
>So if some Apple reps said that it was based on Linux, then I'm guessing 
>that they meant something other than that the kernel is derived from it; 
>perhaps I'm interpreting Linux to mean just the kernel when that wasn't what 
>was meant.
>
>-Mike G-
>
>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: "Steve Jacobson" <steve.jacobson@xxxxxxxx>
>To: <program-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 2:07 PM
>Subject: [program-l] MAC OS and Linux
>
>
>>I am reasonably certain that I heard representatives of Apple
>> say that the operating system was based on Linux.  Can you
>> briefly describe the significance of the difference?  Does this
>> kernel look enough like Linux such that the statement is
>> accurate for general purposes?
>>
>> On Thu, 5 Jan 2006 12:43:15 -0500, Mike Gorse wrote:
>>
>>>Off Topic: USERS SWEAT BULLETS WAITING FOR WMF PATCHMark,
>>>
>>>If you mean Mac OS X, it is based on the Mach kernel and FreeBSD, not on 
>>>Linux.  Some people seem to think that OS X is based on Linux.  Or perhaps 
>>>you really mean that you've used Linux on a Mac.
>>>
>>>  ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>  From: Mark Long
>>>  To: program-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>  Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 11:42 AM
>>>  Subject: [program-l] Re: Off Topic: USERS SWEAT BULLETS WAITING FOR WMF 
>>> PATCH
>>>
>>>
>>>  We can certainly agree to disagree. I don't dislike Linux and I think 
>>> that the Mac integration of it is very pleasant to use.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
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