[program-l] Re: JAWS scripts for .NET Framework
- From: David Lant <david.lant@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: "'program-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'" <program-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2005 16:02:20 +0100
Hi Will,
Please also check the other designers, if you're not doing so already. E.g.
the component designer etc. I suspect they may be very similar to the forms
designers, but it's worth a look. I had assumed that all the designers were
based on the same thing, and thus if the Windows form designer was catered
for, then the web form designer should also work. But you never know with
these things.
David Lant
I.T. Consultant
Consultancy & Development
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-----Original Message-----
From: Will Pearson [mailto:will-pearson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: 09 September 2005 15:52
To: program-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [program-l] Re: JAWS scripts for .NET Framework
Hi Justin,
Yes, it's something that we plan to cover. Both Travis and myself had a
look at the Web Forms designer whilst we were testing VS 2005, and it
implements MSAA. Most of the other dialogs involved with ASP .Net
development, such as the editor, solution explorer, etc. are the same as
they are for Win Forms development, and so incorperating functionality for
ASP .Net development isn't much in the way of additional overhead.
Will
----- Original Message -----
From: "Justin Daubenmire" <justind@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <program-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, September 09, 2005 3:02 PM
Subject: [program-l] Re: JAWS scripts for .NET Framework
> Wil,
>
> will you also be putting in support for asp.net forms and control /
> web
> development? This was lacking in the fs vs 2003 scripts.
>
> Justin
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Will Pearson" <will-pearson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <program-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2005 4:01 PM
> Subject: [program-l] Re: JAWS scripts for .NET Framework
>
>
>> Hi Jamal,
>>
>> Unfortunately they won't run with CLR applications. Each
>> application, as
>> is common with Windows applications, has a different name, and as usual,
>> the file name of the JAWS scripts have to match the application's name in
>> order for JAWS to determine that the scripts should be used with that
>> application. However, the window classes used within Windows Forms
>> applications have class names that JAWS doesn't recognise. As a result
>> of JAWS not recognising the class names, it actually uses MSAA, which for
>> the most part works great, especially as WinForms applications are
>> proxied by MSAA if there's an equivalent control within the collection of
>> standard and common Windows controls. Apart from the WinForms controls
>> that don't have an equivalent amongst the standard and common Windows
>> controls, JAWS also uses the off screen model for edit controls, which
>> subjects edit controls to the usual stability of the JAWS off screen
>> model. If people wanted to, they could cut and copy what Travis and
>> myself are doing for WinForms edit controls and use it in their own
>> scripts.
>>
>> We'll try and get something out before early November, it just
>> depends on
>> how busy we both are *smile*.
>>
>> Will
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Jamal Mazrui" <Jamal.Mazrui@xxxxxxx>
>> To: <program-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2005 5:48 PM
>> Subject: [program-l] JAWS scripts for .NET Framework
>>
>>
>>> Hi Will and Travis,
>>> Regarding the scripts you're developing, I'm curious whether they
>>> would be only for blind programmers developing with the Visual
>>> Studio IDE , or whether they would support blind users of .NET-based
>>> applications as well, e.g., executables developed with the IDE that
>>> incorporate the .NET runtime engine.
>>>
>>> Also, do you think you can post beta scripts to try before the
>>> VS2005 commercial release?
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Jamal
>>>
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