Hi all. I was hoping I wouldn't ever have to post anything like this, but unfortunately I do. Please take a few seconds to read this. (Any CAPS text below is not shouting, that's the only way to make such an emphatic important statement in plain text email). It seems many members are still not removing the footers, and leaving a lot of unnecessary text* in their replies. Nothing has changed from when Marlene had the list, these things still have to be done. To remind those that are forgetting from time to time, this is in the welcome message everyone receives when joining: "[.......] Like the previous list, please don't forget to remove the footers and headers from your posts as to not clog up messages with unneeded* text. Also please leave the past message or two intact when you reply, or the full thread if necessary, so none of the contextual aspect of the posts will be lost. We want people to know what we're talking about that has NOT seen previous posts on a given subject. [.....]" *Unneeded or unnecessary text is; of course the footer, but ALSO all those blocks of header information that is seen below that line of: -----Original Message----- in most email programs, which has the sender's email address, the list's email address, the time, the subject line, etc. That too is unnecessary. Please leave the sender's name in place if they do not sign their posts so we'll know who they are, but IT'S ESPECIALLY IMPORTANT THAT EMAIL ADDRESSES BE REMOVED. While the list archives automatically removes them so they're protected from there against Spam, this is NOT the case on list that we receive in our inboxes! There are dozens of hops emails can take being scanned by dozens, even hundreds of servers for email addresses that are harvested, and sold to parasites. Then there are also MANY of our ISP's that are unscrupulous and will scan emails for email addresses and also sell them. Now none of us want that to happen. So PLEASE remember to remove all email addresses to protect your fellow list members' email addresses from these cyber-terrorists. If a thread's context changes, then please ONLY remove all of the past posts in your replies that do NOT pertain to the new context of the thread. I'm all for complete quoting, there is no character limit here and I've found many cut out way too much of a thread, but leaving in totally irrelevant text is unnecessary. Please DO NOT remove previous posts from your replies that have a direct bearing on your reply or the post to which you are replying. Snipping too much is like listening to a one-sided telephone conversation. ;-) It can be very confusing and useless to those that have not been a part of that particular thread, but are interested in it. Also please remember to leave all URL's/links in the thread that members have provided (unless of course they have become totally irrelevant). Anyone with long signature files, please trim those down before you post. It's ok to leave in your URL's, but other lines of text can be quite a filler. (I trim my signature file each time I post. Those of you that know me off-list certainly know how huge my signature file is! ;-). The reason for this trimming when needed: some members are on ISP's that charge-by-the-byte. So when you leave in all that unneeded text, that's costing them more money. Needless to say, that's very frustrating to them. Then there are the members that are on dial-up, and it can take quite a while to download bloated emails, and can get frustrating to them as well that they had to wait so long. Also we have many members on Digest, and it can be annoying to read through the Digest emails and see them loaded with footers and email header blocks through which they have to endlessly scroll. Thanks again for your time, and your contributions in keeping our list active. I particularly want to point out how pleased I am (and I'm sure all of you are), about how well everyone conducts themselves. I've seen no insults, bad arguments, or anything of the sort. Just polite, friendly, jovial posts, and of course all of the helpful posts. Now that's the way a list should be! I've had several email lists before, and each one of them had their share of hostility, and it's great not to see any of that here. Keep up the good work. :-) I know Hugh and Wally thank you as well. That's made our moderator/problem solving tasks A LOT easier, and we thank all of you. -Clint (list owner) God Bless Clint Hamilton, Owner http://www.OrpheusComputing.com http://www.ComputersCustomBuilt.com ========================= The list's FAQ's can be seen by sending an email to PCWorks-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with FAQ in the subject line. To unsubscribe, subscribe, set Digest or Vacation to on or off, go to //www.freelists.org/list/pcworks . 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