(David you post didn't go to the list because you didn't remove the footer. So I'm just replying to it and I put it below). Thanks, looks like that version won't work either from the reviews on its page. It works "almost" every time? I guess it's buggy like all the rest. I see they have a few more at that site on its download page, I guess I'll try those. The problem with all of these I've ever seen, is (if they even work), they'll only download the low quality .flv version. 99%+ of the videos there have high quality .mpeg versions. You can see them by appending &fmt=18 onto the end of the URL. Even after doing that, most still won't download that version because it's not an flv file. What I'm using for FF will download both but only after you put the &fmt=18 on the end, and only after several tries each. What I was and am now using on FF is a plugin/extension so you don't have to use an additional program running, you just click an icon on FF's toolbar and it does the download. I'm looking for something like that for IE. www.keepvid.com is really nice site. The obviously drawback to it is having to go to the site for every video you want to download, but it does work every time, instantly, and they give you the flv version in the high quality mpeg version at the same time and you can chose the one you want. -Clint God Bless Clint Hamilton, Owner http://www.OrpheusComputing.com http://www.ComputersCustomBuilt.com ----- Original Message ----- That's it's name, Clint. YouTube Downloader. I got it from http://www.download.com/YouTube-Downloader/3000-2071_4-10647340.html It works almost every time. I selected it after trying out many others, and this was (for me) the best of the bunch. Yes, it's freeware. Yes, it works with IE. According to the site, YouTube changed its embed code, so earlier versions of the Downloader (and presumably, those from other sources) will not work. David Grossman ----- Original Message ----- David which downloader do you use? I've been trying to find out what I WAS using on FireFox that worked so well, I lost it and now I can't find it again! I have never found one that works in IE! All the ones for FF or so buggy it's pathetic. You have reload the page several times for the download to start, or it usually takes several attempts at downloading the file because it keeps downloading 0 byte file sizes! What I was using was an icon at the lower right corner of the FF window, but it is NOT "Fast Video Download" which doesn't work AT ALL. It's also not "DownloadHelper" which I have to use now until I can find what I was using. -Clint ----- Original Message ----- And that video leads to other fascinating videos. Thank you, Hugh. I used YouTube Downloader to save some of the videos. It saves the download flash video to various formats. David Grossman > -----Original Message----- > > > This video is very informative and worth watching: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NA28zXo5e6I&feature=related > > It's also frightening. ========================= The list's FAQ's can be seen by sending an email to PCWorks-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with FAQ in the subject line. To unsubscribe, subscribe, set Digest or Vacation to on or off, go to //www.freelists.org/list/pcworks . You can also send an email to PCWorks-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with Unsubscribe in the subject line. Your member list settings can be found at //www.freelists.org/cgi-bin/lsg2.cgi/l=pcworks . Once logged in, you have access to numerous other email options. The list archives are located at //www.freelists.org/archives/pcworks/ . All email posted to the list will be placed there in the event anyone needs to look for previous posts. -zxdjhu-