G-Man, we've been troubleshooting some things again, and here's what we = have. Last weekend hubby and I did the screwdriver on the power switch = pins test you suggested. We did it about 6 times and it started every = single time. So we plugged the power switch back in and pressed it a = few times, and the computer started first time every time. Then it = missed a time and started on the second time. We brought it back to my = desk and hooked everything up and started it a few times, and it started = the first time each time. We turned it off and left for a few hours and = when we got back, I had to press the button over and over for it to = start. I changed the power cord on it to one that had never been used = before, and we tried plugging it into a different plug on the surge = protector. I have a Belkin SurgeMaster Maximum Series with 9 outlets, = phone/fax/modem protection, and a green "protected" light and an amber = "ground" light, Model #F9M923-08, joules rating 2650. The green and = amber lights always glow steadily and never flicker. This protector is = 5 years old now. The new cord and a different plug made no difference. = It should be noted that when we're troubleshooting it, we take it up = front to the kitchen where it is plugged into a different electrical = circuit and we are not using the surge protector for short spurts of = testing. Changing the power cord and plugging it into a different spot on the = surge protector did no good. One thing that seems to make a difference = is toggling the on/off switch on the back of the power supply! We just = discovered this. For the past 2 days, it has started during the first 5 = start button presses after toggling the on/off switch a few times as = opposed to 20-40 presses otherwise. What could toggling this switch be = affecting? I've tested the power supply several times and moved the = wires around while doing it and the readings didn't even blip. This is = an Antec 430 Watt Truepower 2.0 purchased on October 15, 2006. It is = less than 2 years old. This power supply has the ability to monitor = case fan speeds when plugged directly into its "Fan Only" plugs, and you = can monitor the speed of the power supply's fan if you plug its 3-pin = connector into the motherboard. I have the back case fan plugged into = the motherboard, the side case fan plugged into the power supply, and I = do not have the psu's 3-pin connector plugged into the motherboard = because I'm planning to put another fan up front to plug into the = motherboard's front fan plug. The manual boasts dual 12V output = circuitry, over current protection, over power protection, under voltage = protection, and short circuit protection. I've been told that we can use an ohm meter to test the case switch and = that it should read 100. Can you verify this? I'm still having a hard = time believing it's the switch because it's done the exact same thing in = 2 cases, this case is brand new, but it does take a lot more start = button presses in this case than it did in the other and all components = are the same. It takes about the same amount of presses in this case as = the old case if we toggle the on/off psu switch. I don't know how long = this will be true. There were over 400 very good reviews on this = CoolerMaster case at NewEgg. I didn't read all of them, but none that I = read complained of a dead power switch. Some did say they felt the = Start button was flimsy and cheap feeling, but nobody had a dead one. I = don't personally know of anyone who has ever had a dead one in any new = case of any brand, although I certainly wouldn't say that it couldn't = happen. Obviously this one is not totally dead because it does turn on = the computer occasionally. =20 Any thoughts? dj --------------------------------------------------------------- Please remember to trim your replies (including this sentence and everything below it) and adjust the subject line as necessary. To unsubscribe or change your email settings: //www.freelists.org/webpage/pctechtalk To access our Archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PCTechTalk/messages/ //www.freelists.org/archives/pctechtalk/ To contact only the PCTT Mod Squad, write to: pctechtalk-moderators@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ---------------------------------------------------------------