I have a cd in my car - with a lot of those things on it! my friend's computer is having problems - again! I made one the last time too, but some of the programs are outdated now. She's on a dial up so it takes too long to sit and download them at her house also. She hasn't called me back to come over though, so I'm hoping she was able to do some of the cleaning herself this time! Is there a way to download windows updates to an old computer - to put them on a new computer before it touches the internet? and - the same with maybe AVG until you got online to update the norton? My hubby keeps promising me a new computer - just got another promise today since my spot for presents under the tree is pretty bare! If he gets a bonus this year, I can have a new computer. That's around March, I believe. I figure I'll put my anti-spyware on a disk 1st - but what about the updates for that? they seem to auto update directly to the installed programs. What a game of 'cat and mouse' the internet has turned into!! I also figure I'll put a firewall on before I even connect to the internet - if that's possible. I think it should be. Cris ----- Original Message ----- From: Mike To: pctechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2003 5:09 PM Subject: -=PCTechTalk=- Re: The last of Nachi??? One of the benefits of purchasing a computer from a custom builder, or your local shop is they will probably install all the software you request when they create the computer. I supply them with my CD's to be legal. I know the local builder I use in town here supples the time limited version of Norton AV2004 with the most recent patches when he builds a computer. This ensures that the computer comes from him virus free. What I recommend to people, especially at this time of year is to make a CD with the latest version of one of the free AV programs, and AdAware, and SpyBot Search and Destroy on it. It makes a great diagnostic tool and a very helpful and low cost gift. Seasons Greetings http://www3.telus.net/mikebike/Xmas.htm Mike ~ It is a good day if I learned something new. Editor MikesWhatsNews see ~ http://www.mwn.ca <mikeswhatsnews-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?Subject=3Dsubscribe> See my Anti-Virus pages <http://www3.telus.net/mikebike/mikes_virus_page.htm> <virusinfo-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?Subject=3Dsubscribe> A Technical Support Alliance Charter Member *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** On 25/12/2003 at 10:50 AM DH (Rick) Holmes wrote: Thanks again, Cris, I am uncertain myself whether the XP firewall is even correctly setup. I hope it is doing something! I take your point about it being questionable. No, I don't have the Pro version, just WinXPHome. I hope you're not going to ask me where it is!! (joke!) . I can't remember where I came across it! I guess I will find it if I get serious. XP is so different, that it will take an old fella like me a while to find and remember everything. My machine is going OK still, I'm pleased to say , although my net access is slow. I think I have used up my allocation of bytes, after which I revert to 56k. With all this trouble that I have had, I have done a lot of downloading, so my gigabyte could well be gone. Thanks for the URL's Cris. Keep well, and enjoy Xmas all who celebrate it, and a prosperous New Year.. Rick H ** Please remove this line and everything below it before replying =A0** To unsub or change your email settings: //www.freelists.org/webpage/pctechtalk To access our Archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PCTechTalk/messages/ //www.freelists.org/archives/pctechtalk/ For more info: //www.freelists.org/cgi-bin/list?list_id=pctechtalk To unsub or change your email settings: //www.freelists.org/webpage/pctechtalk To access our Archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PCTechTalk/messages/ //www.freelists.org/archives/pctechtalk/ For more info: //www.freelists.org/cgi-bin/list?list_id=pctechtalk