-=PCTechTalk=- Re: System Restore and Go Back
- From: "DH (Rick) Holmes" <hayvan@xxxxxxxxxx>
- To: pctechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2005 12:39:27 +1300
Rose....this is one of the best descriptions of an application that I
think I have ever seen. Thank you very much for taking the time and
trouble to explain so much in so much detail. It is also fully
understandable. Great Stuff.
It has explained to me that there is, in fact, a vast difference in the
functions of the two programs. It also does point out that they can,
apparently, run side by side. So there is a point in people having the
two apps. I personally have got out of any problem that I have
encountered with SR, but, if I could afford to spend the money, I would
go for GB as well. However, I am a pensioner with resources that I want
to last the rest of my life, and I am only 80+. So I don't buy too many
programs, I go for the free ones mainly, and thank goodness for them and
those that engineer them!
I repeat you have explained things beautifully, and I appreciate that.
Thank you again.
Rick H
Tech Rose - LoveBytes wrote:
>Hi all,
>
>First, I want to agree 100% with what Troth said - Don't take System Restore
>for Granted..and I will add, do not take Go Back for granted either.
>
>I stand by my original statement, I will not willingly own a computer
>without GoBack installed. I will add, I would NOT disable System Restore.
>I have used both and they did their job well. They just do different jobs.
>
>I do not want to beat a horse to death... (no not beat a dead horse..as both
>horses are alive and well and champions!) I feel I must have
>miscommunicated my opinion and information about Go Back and System Restore.
>I am going to try again, please bear with me. This is lengthy. If you do
>not care about Go Back or System Restore, do not read on..just file this
>away for a future need..or hit the delete key.
>
>Back to the Go Back Vs System Restore comments.
>There is NO Either Go Back OR System Restore controversy.
>They are two programs that do different things and have different purposes.
>They are two seemingly similar but not duplicate tools in your tool box to
>help you maintain your machine in good working order or revert it back to
>working order.
>
>
>I do NOT think anyone should CHANGE from System Restore to Go Back.
>
>Go Back does a completely different function.
>
>Go Back is NOT Backup Software
>------------------------------------------------
>Go Back is NOT an entire Computer System Backup Program.
>
>It does NOT make mirror or Ghost copies of the your drives. There a many
>other programs that do just that.
>A program such a Symantec/Norton Ghost or Diskeeper which comes with
>Symantec/ Norton Partition Magic or one of many other programs does that
>very well.
>Those programs copy everything you tell it to and make an exact copy of it.
>You can choose to use different methods to update this copy of your backup.
>You can make NEW complete copies on what ever schedule you choose.
>You can have the backup program running all the time and make constant
>changes to your backup records live as you make changes on your computer.
>This can include adding and deleting files or programs. Once the backup
>changes are made, there is no way within that program to retrieve something
>you have overwritten.
>That is what GoBack does. It goes into the past and brings a file or files
>into the present!
>-----------------------------------------------------------------
>Go Back is NOT System Restore. (While both programs were written by Roxio,
>there purposes are different. Microsoft had Roxio do what it does with
>GoBack JUST FOR SYSTEM FILES! It was even called a lite version of Go Back
>at one time!)
>
>System Restore will ONLY revert System Files. It will NOT retrieve a word
>document you changed last night. It will not get back a picture you
>accidentally deleted or edited and then forgot to save the original.
>--------------------------------------------------------
>
>What Go Back does
>------------------------------------------------------
>Now, I am not an expert on exactly how Go Back does what it does, but I know
>it takes care of the CHANGES you make as you make them.
>
>Go Back will copy up to 4 GB of information/data on FAT 32 file systems or 8
>GB of this information/data on NTFS systems on each physical hard drive.
>(This does not mean per hard drive letter if you have a partitioned drive.
>It means the limit is for each physical hard drive. If you have two hard
>drives, then the amount is doubled. But, the limit is still PER physical
>hard drive. If you only have 2 GB of data on one drive... that does NOT
>increase the amount it will record on the other hard drive. The limit is
>per physical hard drive.
>This is the maximum amount of space Go Back is designed to handle. Needless
>to say..if I have 200 GB of data, it is not going to have it all duplicated
>for me.
>What it will do, is add and delete what I add and delete WITHIN THE 4GB or
>8 GB limitation mentioned above.
>
>Here is a great example of what Go Back can do.
>Say you install a program you download from the net from some site your
>friend thought was cool. You install it and run it..it seems like fun.....
>Within minutes things seem to go wacky with your system. You try to figure
>out what is going on..and see that your virus protection has been disabled!
>You cannot get it to restart. You do an online scan and find out you have
>some awful virus!
>
>Relax.... Start Go Back...and revert back to before you downloaded that
>program. When you do this... you Go Back to before you got the virus and
>guess what...NO virus and your virus protection program is working just fine
>again..Whew! Go Back saved the day!
>
>Now do not take this all for granted..remember Go Back has limitations as to
>how far back it can go due to space limitations. So, act quickly.
>
>This is not fool proof. New viruii and worms are released every day..and
>maybe if they are left unchecked they can undo Go Back...but until then..
>you are ok
>Always be vigilant with your safety.
>
>------------------------------------------------------------------
>Ok.. let me try to make this a little less confusing.
>I have all my programs installed.... new computer... no data........
>I install Go Back.
>
>I add data and delete data...and copy 2 GB of data from one physical drive
>to another. Go Back will keep record of those changes.
>If I decide I want to undo those changes, my options are to move the data
>back to the original drive, or have Go Back revert the drives to a former
>time.
>Sort of like turning the clock back.
>When I have accomplished this reversion to a prior time, Go Back will show
>me a listing of the things it changed. I can review this listing and
>find..oh nooo I did not mean to change my well written email to
>PCTechTalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx to be changed to the original draft. I want all
>those changes I made just before I reverted the drive! I can then
>highlight that file and retrieve it and not have to rewrite the earlier
>version!
>
>As I make changes, Go Back records the changes. It does NOT keep things
>forever. It keeps the changes within the limit of the space (4 GB or 8 GB)
>available. When it has filled the space (4 Gb or 8 GB) it will then
>overwrite the space and maintain the data to the limit available.
>
>So, if you have made very few changes to a drive, it may keep stuff for
>months. If you add and delete GB's a data every day...(not even I do
>that..haha!)
>then, your records will not be available for that long a period.
>
>
>--------------------------------------------------
>This is what the write up on this program says:
>-----------------------------------------------------------
> a.. SafeTry Mode lets you uninstall new software or undo actions with a
>single click.
> b.. Familiar, intuitive search bar makes it easy to find the files or
>folders you want to restore.
> c.. You can now drag and drop recovered files to their desired locations,
>and rescue multiple files simultaneously.
> d.. History buffer now holds up to 8 GB of data.¹
> e.. New user interface lets you quickly recover files, restore an entire
>disk drive, or activate SafeTry Mode.
> f.. Restores your disk drive to a previous healthy state after a system
>crash, failed software installation, user error, virus attack, or other
>problem.
> g.. Allows you to restore just the files or folders you need, or an entire
>drive.
> h.. AutoBack enables you to schedule regular rollbacks.
> i.. Virtual Drive displays a previous state of a disk drive.
>¹Quantity of historical information stored depends on available hard disk
>space. Maximum history on FAT32 filesystems is 4GB
>---------------------------------------------------------
>-----------------------------------------------------------
>If you are interested in buying Go Back here are some links
>-------------------------------------------------------------------------
>There is a $20 rebate for these below sites, but, I am not sure if anyone
>has the required previous programs to qualify for it.
>If you have Norton Systemworks, you have the lite version of Go Back. You
>can click on the upgrade link there and see what it costs.
>
>If any of these links do not work, go to the website and do a search for
>GoBack (no Spaces)
>
>Here is alink to purchase it for $50.00
>
>http://www.softwareoasis.cc/dr/sat4/Ec_Main.entry24?SP=10023&PN=1&V1=662780&xid=22330&search_id=17216078&doc_id=1&DSP=&CUR=840&PGRP=0&CACHE_ID=0
>
>CompuUSA link..also $50
>http://www.compusa.com/products/product_info.asp?product_code=315341&pfp=srch1
>
>Fry's - Outpost has it for $50
>http://shop4.outpost.com/product/4154333?site=sr:SEARCH:MAIN_RSLT_PG
>
>
>Here is a link from ebay to purchase the full brand new program - retain
>version for $9.95
>http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=67389&item=7139993422&rd=1
>
>
>Here is a link from Amazon.com .. where is can be found used from $9.99 to
>new for $44.95
>http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/search-handle-form/104-7317439-0045548
>
>I too
>
>I hope you all survived this... If anyone has further questions, please
>write me directly as I do not want to drive everyone nuts.... lol!
>I aplogize to those on digest... and those on dial up. You are the main
>reason I am asking anyone who has further questions to send them to me
>directly.
>
>
>
>Have a great day... MAKE it a grand day.
>Rose
>Las Vegas
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "DH (Rick) Holmes" <hayvan@xxxxxxxxxx>
>To: <pctechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Sent: Monday, March 07, 2005 7:55 PM
>Subject: -=PCTechTalk=- Re: System Restore
>
>
>Well, I've just viewed my SysRestore and the following dates have a
>system footprint:-
>January: 9,10,12,13,15-18,20-24,31.
>February: 3,4,6-12,14,16,18-20,22-24,28
>March: 2-8.
>
>I have, therefore, many options. If GoBack presents a ghost of the HDD,
>with this number of options(40), I could not hazard a guess as to the
>space it would occupy. GoBack looks like a $US69 buy, so these
>comparisons favour SystemRestore exclusively, in my humble opinion. I
>could not advise anybody to look at changing, but I would have some
>regard for what Troth has said in his latest message.
>
>Cheers,
>
>Rick H
>
>
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