-=PCTechTalk=- Re: Firefox sux; anyone use Crazy Browser?
- From: "rudy" <rudylopeznc@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: <pctechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2013 14:49:48 -0500
I had been using Firefox a LONG time but it kept telling me to update, I
liked version 3X but after upgrading I no longer liked it. I was skeptical
about Chrome as websites say it shares your info, etc..what doesn't but I
like Chrome........never heard of Crazy browser
Rudy
----- Original Message -----
From: "Skip" <chazzlee@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <pctechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, January 14, 2013 2:35 PM
Subject: -=PCTechTalk=- Re: Firefox sux; anyone use Crazy Browser?
> Firefox sux; -way too many *&%^^ software killing updates!
> Does Chrome work any better?
> -Also, anyone use Crazy Browser?
> Greywoulf
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>> pctechtalk Digest Sun, 13 Jan 2013 Volume: 11 Issue: 010
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>> In This Issue:
>> -=PCTechTalk=- I E 8 is getting old
>> -=PCTechTalk=- Re: I E 8 is getting old
>> -=PCTechTalk=- Re: Firefox 18 (and Google) updates suck
>> big
>> -=PCTechTalk=- Re: Firefox 18 (and Google) updates suck
>> big
>> -=PCTechTalk=- Re: I E 8 is getting old
>> -=PCTechTalk=- PSA: Java Exploit (Threat-level
>> critical)
>>
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> From: HandsomeBlck@xxxxxxx
>> Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2013 09:27:24 -0500 (EST)
>> Subject: -=PCTechTalk=- I E 8 is getting old
>>
>> Hello all,
>> I'm starting to get notice from web sites saying my browser is too old.
>> What do you guys think a good upgrade would be for me? Running XP Home.
>> Thanks,
>>
>> HB
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> From: "RecklessMaverick" <recklessmaverick@xxxxxxxxxx>
>> Subject: -=PCTechTalk=- Re: I E 8 is getting old
>> Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2013 11:44:57 -0500
>>
>> I'm getting the same thing and I use IE 8. If MS ever restores control
>> of
>> the toolbars to what it was in IE8, then and ONLY then will I upgrade. I
>> will NOT upgrade to 9 nor will I use Firefox. If a website decides they
>> don't like IE 8 then they decide they don't like me. I avoid websites
>> that
>> don't like me.
>>
>> I may try Chrome, but like Firefox they do updates more often than most
>> men
>> change their underwear. If they built a good quality product to begin
>> with
>> they would not need to update their product so much and all the add-ons
>> and
>> extensions would not need to be constantly updated.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: pctechtalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:pctechtalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
>> HandsomeBlck@xxxxxxx
>> Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2013 9:27 AM
>> To: pctechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: -=PCTechTalk=- I E 8 is getting old
>>
>> Hello all,
>> I'm starting to get notice from web sites saying my browser is too old.
>> What do you guys think a good upgrade would be for me? Running XP Home.
>> Thanks,
>>
>> HB
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>> Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2013 14:47:35 -0500
>> Subject: -=PCTechTalk=- Re: Firefox 18 (and Google) updates suck big
>> time!
>> From: Skip <chazzlee@xxxxxxxxx>
>>
>> Yep! Totally agree!
>> And the other pest is Google..! Every time I open it up it seems they
>> feel
>> they have an obligation to remind me that I'm not using the "latest"
>> browser and perhaps I should switch to Google Chrome!
>> I mean, who in hell gave these guys (Firefox and Google) the right to
>> keep
>> insisting on *our* PCs that we update to their latest (often inferior)
>> product release? -Do they really think we are too stupid to know what we
>> want on our own computers???
>> An informative single, one time pop-up stating a new release is available
>> *if
>> we wanted it *should be more than enough... There should be some kind of
>> law against these annoying attempts by software companies to try and
>> force
>> people to use their products!
>> Also, if anyone on this list has any knowledge of how to change settings
>> and things in a PC to prevent these constantly annoying "reminders"(?) to
>> update things, I'd appreciate it very much..!
>> Thanks,
>> Greywoulf
>>
>>
>> From: "cristy" <poppy0206@xxxxxxx>
>>
>> > Subject: -=PCTechTalk=- Re: Firefox 18 sux big time!
>> > Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2013 22:44:04 -0500
>> >
>> > Hi Greywolf,
>> >
>> > FF keeps bugging me too for updates and I want it to stop. I've had
>> issues
>> > with their updates in the past too.
>> >
>> > Christy
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "Skip" <chazzlee@xxxxxxxxx>
>> > To: <pctechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2013 10:11 PM
>> > Subject: -=PCTechTalk=- Firefox 18 sux big time!
>> >
>> >
>> > Firefox 18 sux!
>> > I innocently let FF update itself to ver 18, forgetting the troubles
>> > I've
>> > had with FF's so-called "improvements" before!
>> > Sure enough, all of a sudden my printer software would not print
>> > anything
>> > legible (if at all?) from the web. Mowever my own hard drive stored
>> files,
>> > they still printed fine!
>> > So I uninstalled FF 18 and went back to ver 3.6.17., and everything's
>> > normal again!
>> > I think I'm gonna forget about there updates from now on. -Is there a
>> > way
>> > to disable their pestering pop-ups re their 'update' nonsense?
>> > Thanks,
>> > Greywoulf
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> From: "RecklessMaverick" <recklessmaverick@xxxxxxxxxx>
>> Subject: -=PCTechTalk=- Re: Firefox 18 (and Google) updates suck big
>> time!
>> Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2013 14:58:32 -0500
>>
>> You could try using an entry in your HOSTS file but that might also stop
>> other desirable data from getting through also.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: pctechtalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:pctechtalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Skip
>> Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2013 2:48 PM
>> To: pctechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: -=PCTechTalk=- Re: Firefox 18 (and Google) updates suck big
>> time!
>>
>> Yep! Totally agree!
>> And the other pest is Google..! Every time I open it up it seems they
>> feel
>> they have an obligation to remind me that I'm not using the "latest"
>> browser and perhaps I should switch to Google Chrome!
>> I mean, who in hell gave these guys (Firefox and Google) the right to
>> keep
>> insisting on *our* PCs that we update to their latest (often inferior)
>> product release? -Do they really think we are too stupid to know what we
>> want on our own computers???
>> An informative single, one time pop-up stating a new release is available
>> *if we wanted it *should be more than enough... There should be some kind
>> of
>> law against these annoying attempts by software companies to try and
>> force
>> people to use their products!
>> Also, if anyone on this list has any knowledge of how to change settings
>> and
>> things in a PC to prevent these constantly annoying "reminders"(?) to
>> update
>> things, I'd appreciate it very much..!
>> Thanks,
>> Greywoulf
>>
>>
>> From: "cristy" <poppy0206@xxxxxxx>
>>
>> > Subject: -=PCTechTalk=- Re: Firefox 18 sux big time!
>> > Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2013 22:44:04 -0500
>> >
>> > Hi Greywolf,
>> >
>> > FF keeps bugging me too for updates and I want it to stop. I've had
>> > issues with their updates in the past too.
>> >
>> > Christy
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "Skip" <chazzlee@xxxxxxxxx>
>> > To: <pctechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2013 10:11 PM
>> > Subject: -=PCTechTalk=- Firefox 18 sux big time!
>> >
>> >
>> > Firefox 18 sux!
>> > I innocently let FF update itself to ver 18, forgetting the troubles
>> > I've had with FF's so-called "improvements" before!
>> > Sure enough, all of a sudden my printer software would not print
>> > anything legible (if at all?) from the web. Mowever my own hard drive
>> > stored files, they still printed fine!
>> > So I uninstalled FF 18 and went back to ver 3.6.17., and everything's
>> > normal again!
>> > I think I'm gonna forget about there updates from now on. -Is there a
>> > way to disable their pestering pop-ups re their 'update' nonsense?
>> > Thanks,
>> > Greywoulf
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> From: "rudy" <rudylopeznc@xxxxxxxxx>
>> Subject: -=PCTechTalk=- Re: I E 8 is getting old
>> Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2013 15:00:49 -0500
>>
>> I switched to Google Chrome from Firefox......not bad
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: <HandsomeBlck@xxxxxxx>
>> To: <pctechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2013 9:27 AM
>> Subject: -=PCTechTalk=- I E 8 is getting old
>>
>>
>> > Hello all,
>> > I'm starting to get notice from web sites saying my browser is too old.
>> > What do you guys think a good upgrade would be for me? Running XP Home.
>> > Thanks,
>> >
>> > HB
>> >
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>> Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2013 16:28:25 -0800 (PST)
>> From: LARRY SOUTHERLAND <larrysoutherland@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Subject: -=PCTechTalk=- PSA: Java Exploit (Threat-level critical)
>>
>>
>> http://krebsonsecurity.com/2013/01/what-you-need-to-know-about-the-java-exploit/
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>> What You Need to Know About the Java Exploit
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>> On Thursday, the world learned that attackers were breaking into
>> computers
>> using
>> a previously undocumented security hole in Java, a program that is
>> installed on
>> hundreds of millions of computers worldwide. This post aims to answer
>> some of
>> the most frequently asked questions about the vulnerability, and to
>> outline
>> simple steps that users can take to protect themselves.
>> Q: What is Java, anyway?
>> A: Java is a programming language and computing platform that powers
>> programs
>> including utilities, games, and business applications. According to Java
>> maker
>> Oracle Corp., Java runs on more than 850 million personal computers
>> worldwide,
>> and on billions of devices worldwide, including mobile and TV devices.
>> It
>> is
>> required by some Web sites that use it to run interactive games and
>> applications.
>> Q: So what is all the fuss about?
>> A: Researchers have discovered that cybercrooks are attacking a
>> previously
>> unknown security hole in Java 7 that can be used to seize control over a
>> computer if a user visits a compromised or malicious Web site.
>> Q: Yikes. How do I protect my computer?
>> A: The version of Java that runs on most consumer PCs includes a browser
>> plug-in. According to researchers at Carnegie Mellon University‘s CERT,
>> unplugging the Java plugin from the browser essentially prevents
>> exploitation
>> of the vulnerability. Not long ago, disconnecting Java from the browser
>> was not
>> straightforward, but with the release of the latest version of Java 7 —
>> Update
>> 10 — Oracle included a very simple method for removing Java from the
>> browser.
>> You can find their instructions for doing this here.
>> Q: How do I know if I have Java installed, and if so, which version?
>> A: The simplest way is to visit this link and click the “Do I have Java”
>> link,
>> just below the big red “Download Java” button.
>> Q: I’m using Java 6. Does that mean I don’t have to worry about this?
>> A: There have been conflicting findings on this front. The description of
>> this
>> bug at the National Vulnerability Database (NVD), for example, states
>> that
>> the
>> vulnerability is present in Java versions going back several years,
>> including
>> version 4 and 5. Analysts at vulnerability research firm Immunity say
>> the
>> bug
>> could impact Java 6 and possibly earlier versions. But Will Dormann, a
>> security
>> expert who’s been examining this flaw closely for CERT, said the NVD’s
>> advisory
>> is incorrect: CERT maintains that this vulnerability stems from a
>> component that
>> Oracle introduced with Java 7. Dormann points to a detailed technical
>> analysis
>> of the Java flaw by Adam Gowdiak of Security Explorations, a security
>> research
>> team that has alerted Java maker Oracle about a large number of flaws in
>> Java.
>> Gowdiak says Oracle tried to fix this particular flaw in a previous
>> update but
>> failed to address it completely.
>> Either way, it’s important not to get too hung up on which versions are
>> affected, as this could become a moving target. Also, a new zero-day
>> flaw
>> is
>> discovered in Java several times a year. That’s why I’ve urged readers
>> to
>> either uninstall Java completely or unplug it from the browser no matter
>> what
>> version you’re using.
>>
>> Q: A site I use often requires the Java plugin to be enabled. What should
>> I do?
>> A: You could downgrade to Java 6, but that is not a very good solution.
>> Oracle
>> will stop supporting Java 6 at the end of February 2013, and will soon
>> be
>> transitioning Java 6 users to Java 7 anyway. If you need Java for
>> specific Web
>> sites, a better solution is to adopt a two-browser approach. If you
>> normally
>> browse the Web with Firefox, for example, consider disabling the Java
>> plugin in
>> Firefox, and then using an alternative browser (Chrome, IE9, Safari,
>> etc.) with
>> Java enabled to browse only the site(s) that require(s) it.
>> Q: I am using a Mac, so I should be okay, right?
>> A: Not exactly. Experts have found that this flaw in Java 7 can be
>> exploited to
>> foist malware on Mac and Linux systems, in addition to Microsoft Windows
>> machines. Java is made to run programs across multiple platforms, which
>> makes
>> it especially dangerous when new flaws in it are discovered. For
>> instance, the
>> Flashback worm that infected more than 600,000 Macs wiggled into OS X
>> systems
>> via a Java flaw. Oracle’s instructions include advice on how to unplug
>> Java from
>> Safari. I should note that Apple has not provided a version of Java for
>> OS X
>> beyond 6, but users can still download and install Java 7 on Mac
>> systems.
>> However, it appears that in response to this threat, Apple has taken
>> steps to
>> block Java from running on OS X systems.
>> Q: I don’t browse random sites or visit dodgy porn sites, so I shouldn’t
>> have to
>> worry about this, correct?
>> A: Wrong. This vulnerability is mainly being exploited by exploit packs,
>> which
>> are crimeware tools made to be stitched into Web sites so that when
>> visitors
>> come to the site with vulnerable/outdated browser plugins (like this
>> Java
>> bug),
>> the site can silently install malware on the visitor’s PC. Exploit packs
>> can be
>> just as easily stitched into porn sites as they can be inserted into
>> legitimate, hacked Web sites. All it takes is for the attackers to be
>> able to
>> insert one line of code into a compromised Web site.
>> Q: I’ve read in several places that this is the first time that the U.S.
>> government has urged computer users to remove or wholesale avoid using a
>> particular piece of software because of a widespread threat. Is this
>> true?
>> A: Not really. During previous high-alert situations, CERT has advised
>> Windows
>> users to avoid using Internet Explorer. In this case, CERT is not really
>> recommending that users uninstall Java: just that users unplug Java from
>> their
>> Web browser.
>> Q: I’m pretty sure that my Windows PC has Java installed, but I can’t
>> seem to
>> locate the Java Control Panel from the Windows Start Menu or Windows
>> Control
>> Panel. What gives?
>> A: According to CERT’s Dormann, due to what appears to potentially be a
>> bug in
>> the Java installer, the Java Control Panel applet may be missing on some
>> Windows systems. In such cases, the Java Control Panel applet may be
>> launched
>> by finding and executing javacpl.exe manually. This file is likely to be
>> found
>> in C:\Program Files\Java\jre7\bin or C:\Program Files
>> (x86)\Java\jre7\bin.
>> Q: I can’t remember the last time I used Java, and it doesn’t look like I
>> even
>> need this program anymore. Should I keep it?
>> A: Java is not as widely used as it once was, and most users probably
>> can
>> get
>> by without having the program installed at all. I have long recommended
>> that
>> users remove Java unless they have a specific use for it. If you
>> discover
>> later
>> that you really do need Java, it is trivial and free to reinstall it.
>> Q: This is all well and good advice for consumers, but I manage many PCs
>> in a
>> business environment. Is there a way to deploy Java but keep the plugin
>> disconnected from the browser?
>> A: CERT advises that system administrators wishing to deploy Java 7
>> Update 10
>> or later with the “Enable Java content in the browser” feature disabled
>> can
>> invoke the Java installer with the WEB_JAVA=0 command-line option. More
>> details
>> are available in the Java documentation.
>> Q: Okay, I think I’m covered on Java. But what about Javascript?
>> A: Because of the unfortunate similarity of their names, many people
>> confuse
>> Java with Javascript. But these are two completely different things.
>> Most
>> Web
>> sites use JavaScript, a powerful scripting language that helps make
>> sites
>> interactive. Unfortunately, a huge percentage of Web-based attacks use
>> JavaScript tricks to foist malicious software and exploits onto site
>> visitors.
>> To protect yourself, it is critically important to have an easy method
>> of
>> selecting which sites should be allowed to run JavaScript in the
>> browser.
>> It is
>> true that selectively allowing JavaScript on known, “safe” sites won’t
>> block
>> all malicious scripting attacks: Even legitimate sites sometimes end up
>> running
>> malicious code when scammers figure out ways to sneak tainted, bogus ads
>> into
>> the major online ad networks. But disallowing JavaScript by default and
>> selectively enabling it for specific sites remains a much safer option
>> than
>> letting all sites run JavaScript unrestricted all the time.
>> Firefox has many extensions and add-ons that make surfing the Web a
>> safer
>> experience. One extension that I have found indispensable is NoScript.
>> This
>> extension lets the user decide which sites should be allowed to run
>> JavaScript,
>> including Flash Player content. Users can choose to allow specific
>> exceptions
>> either permanently or for a single browsing session.
>> Chrome also includes similar script- and Flash blocking functionality
>> that
>> seems designed to minimize some of these challenges by providing fewer
>> options.
>> If you tell Chrome to block JavaScript on all sites by default, when you
>> browse
>> to a site that uses JavaScript, the upper right corner of the browser
>> displays
>> a box with a red “X” through it. If you click that and select “Always
>> allow
>> JavaScript on [site name]” it will permanently enable JavaScript for
>> that
>> site,
>> but it doesn’t give you the option to block third-party JavaScript
>> content on
>> the site as Noscript does. In my testing, I had to manually refresh the
>> page
>> before Chrome allowed scripting on a site that I’d just whitelisted. In
>> addition, there is a very handy add-on for Chrome called NotScripts that
>> works
>> very much like Noscript.
>> Selectively script blocking can take some getting used to. Most
>> script-blocking
>> add-ons will disable scripting by default on Web sites that you have not
>> added
>> to your trusted list. In some cases, it may take multiple tries to get a
>> site
>> that makes heavy use of Javascript to load properly.
>> Internet Explorer allows users to block scripts, but even the latest
>> version of
>> IE still doesn’t give the user much choice in handling JavaScript. In
>> IE9, you
>> can select among JavaScript on, off, or prompting you to load
>> JavaScript.
>> Turning JavaScript off isn’t much of an option, but leaving it
>> completely
>> open
>> is unsafe. Choosing the “Prompt” option does nothing but serve incessant
>> pop-up
>> prompts to allow or disallow scripts (see the video below). The lack of
>> a
>> simpler approach to script blocking in IE is one of the main reasons I
>> continue
>> to steer readers toward Firefox and Chrome.
>>
>>
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>>
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