What if someone does not have Java loaded. My uncle is using windows ME and IE browswer. He could not see the veepers thing. If changing the settings in control panel under IE and security does not work where can he find the link to downloade the Java. christine To unsub or change your email settings: //www.freelists.org/webpage/pctechtalk To access our Archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PCTechTalk/messages/ //www.freelists.org/archives/pctechtalk/ For more info: //www.freelists.org/cgi-bin/list?list_id=pctechtalk