[pchelpers] Re: Date problem with Nortons 2002
- From: John Durham <john.modec@xxxxxxxxxx>
- To: pchelpers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2002 11:36:57 +1300
I've had similar problems, but don't have info on the programs you
requested. Maybe the others know of such apps. On the other hand, there
is a standard workaround for corrupt registry problems that will likely
solve your Nortons problem too.
Use a standard boot floppy to get to DOS prompt (if your system won't
allow this I would plug the drive into another slot and re-fdisk it).
Rename the windows directory to something the installer won't recognise
(but you will). If necessary, delete win.com from it to fool the
installer. Then re-install a clean windows version and allow it to set
up a new registry.
Afterwards, you will have to install the programs, but some will operate
from shortcuts you copy from the old directory. How does that grab you?
chrisc@xxxxxxxxx wrote:
>
> Hi
>
> This is a long discussion but the last straw problem above has made
> me decide to do something more active about the whole issue.
>
> I will tell you about the current problem and then I will digress
> slightly to
> bring in a larger issue which the problem above has illustrated.
>
> Problem.
> I recently installed Nortons 2002 on my machine at home. (A recent
> reload of W2K onto a new motherboard). Some time after this I was
> checking for file versions based on creation or modification dates
> (trying to find which version of my Netscape Bookmarks was current)
> and I found that my motherboard was set to a date early last year. I
> reset it to this year.
> A short time later I got a messaage from Nortons Antivirus saying that
> my subscription had failed. I was surprised to say the least. However
> upon reflection I realised that Norton had set the subscription date
> based on last years date and that now made the new date right at the
> END of the sub period.
> So I did the obvious and completely (?) removed Norton from the PC
> followed by a new install. But it still didn't work. So I think that
> Nortons
> wrote something into the registry which didn't get removed and which
> is
> now being accessed by the new install. At the moment the only way for
> me to use the Antivirus program is for me to reset the date back a
> year
> and as you can imagine this is completely unsatisfactory. Now I could
> go out a buy a 100 copies and every single one would be screwed by
> this date issue. I know why it has been done this way and that is to
> stop
> you from using a product longer than a year witrhout resubscribing.
>
> (I have just found out that there is a small fix which is a Live
> Update
> Reviver which might fix the above problem but this doesn't help with
> other problems of a like nature).
>
> So what I need is a program which can monitor every single access to
> the registry and give me a list of each entry BEFORE and AFTER it is
> altered and whereabouts within the registry these entries are. Then
> after a program has been removed you can redo this list and check to
> see what entries weren't removed or altered back. It will then be
> obvious where the date problem is being caused. I feel this will solve
> a
> lot of problems with other software issues particularly where
> reinstalls
> don't fix a problem especially where you had a working program,
> something goes wrong, but a reload won't fix it.
>
> Digression. Also long.
>
> A long time ago my wife was running Pagemaker (version 1 or
> something) on an AT (Windows 2 or something) and it was as slow as
> a wet week. I found a program which allowed me to monitor every
> single access to a file or application over a period of time. So I
> could
> load Pagemaker, perform an operation and then exit PM. I would then
> have a list of how many times various files were accessed. I took the
> top ten and loaded them into Ramdrive on startup and Pagemaker
> performed up to 20 times faster. I am looking at doing this for modern
> operating systems because the principle should still hold true. So
> what
> I want is a program similar to this which will do the same function on
> Registry reads/writes.
>
> Digression continues.
> Now over the last 3 months I have had problems with Nero CD Writer,
> ActiveSmart (IDE disk drive program), the above problem with Nortons,
> with ScreenSeize (a screen grabber) plus one other the name which
> escapes me.
> This problem has mostly been where the program won't run fullscreen
> but will minimise. A characteristic has been that most of these did
> work
> once but somewhere along the way stopped working correctly. A
> removal using either their own deinstall or Microsofts removal program
> followed by a reinstall doesn't work with the aberrant behaviour still
> present. Requests to the program manfs results results in no fixes.
> The
> only fix found to actually do anything usefull is a full OS reinstall
> and I
> have had enough of doing this. So my conclusion is that either there
> is
> an unknown/unreported bug or a setting with an extra feature with W2K
> and W98 which stops the applications from performing correctly.
> My first guess is that the registry isn't being cleaned out correctly
> hence
> my question about a registry monitoring program.
>
> Looking back over the last year I would have to say that 80% of all
> Windows problems have been over the above issue of what I would
> have to call registry corruption (or maybe Microsofts deliberately
> crippled deinstaller is at fault ?).
>
> So my questions to the group are :
>
> 1. Does anybody know of a registry entry monitor ?
> 2. Does anybody know how or of ramdrives for use with Windows ?
> 3. Does anybody know of a program which monitors which programs
> get used and how often they are accessed ?
> 4. Has anybody had problems like these before ?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Regards
> Chris Calvert, Engineering Manager
> Business Computers Ltd, 506 Wairakei Road,
> Christchurch, New Zealand.
> Ph +64 3 359 5556 Fax +64 3 359 5975
> Check our Web site at www.bcl.co.nz
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