[patriots] Re: Why believe in God?
- From: Dianne Carr <patriotsplace1103@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: "ukpatriot@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx" <ukpatriot@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, Dianne <patriots@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2015 20:50:14 +0000 (UTC)
Hi Ray. A couple of thoughts here. If there is no God, who owns the world?
Already we have these less than desirable people stealing everything (all our
resources) we need to survive and carving it up among themselves denying us
acess. And who makes the laws? A Russian scientist made a profound statement
saying either there's a God or there isn't. If there is a God we should find
out what he wants and do it, as the alternative don't bare thinking about and
If there isn't a God we are hurtling through space at 66,000 miles an hour and
there is no one in charge and that don't bare thinking about either. Di
From: Jack Lewis <ukpatriot@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: patriots@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Saturday, 14 February 2015, 9:13
Subject: [patriots] Re: Why believe in God?
Hi Ray,
Of course it hasn't been proven.
Here's another way of looking at evolution. You start a bank account with £1
(one cell). Let's forget, for the time being where the £1 came from in the
first place. Lets now assume that the Bank's computer is useless and constantly
makes random mistakes to people's accounts like adding or subtracting money or
just losing money. Would you expect your account to grow to millions and
millions (a human being) over time?
How would you like to fly in an 747 that had a new guidance system computer
program installed that had been written using random keystrokes on a computer?
See the video below of that arch evolutionist, Richard Dawkins, being asked a
very simple question. His reaction will surprise you! What he does is to answer
a question that wasn't asked.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zaKryi3605g
Finally, my 14 year old son's response to another student in class talking
about the 'Big Bang' was to ask him "First there was nothing?" "Yes" came the
reply from the other student.
"Then it exploded?" said my son.
There was much laughter from the other students and the teacher said that it
was a very good reply.
Just because scientists wear white coats and are 'intelligent' doesn't mean
that they do not have their own world view predjudices colouring how they think.
Jack
On 14/02/2015 00:29, Rays1 wrote:
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prove evolution”, that’s long proven already, is it not? Ray From:
patriots-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:patriots-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of john TIMBRELL
Sent: 10 February 2015 21:23
To: ukpatriot@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Cc: patriots@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [patriots] Re: Why believe in God? Hello Jack. I know you will
take this as a friendly riposte so I know you will not take offence. My
thinking on god is just man's way of boosting his own self image. Man. in my
opinion is minuscule in the natural scheme of things. I do not denigrate that
here on earth we at the moment are at the climax of evolution; and possibly may
continue to control evolution here on earth. But history tells us that we could
destroy ourselves and then the normal processes of evolution will return. But
then my humility tells me that my brain has not developed sufficiently to
understand natural or supernatural processes, so even through I am sure in my
own mind to write such stuff I really cannot understand the certainties that
you believe. I certainly would not write this if it caused you to doubt your
belief because I know whatever I state you will have sufficient proof to
convince yourself that you are right.. but it is wonderful that me and thee can
have a friendly discussion.and anyway there's eff all on telly.Best wishes.
JohnT and glad to know you Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2015 09:29:57 +0000
From: ukpatriot@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
To: patriots@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [patriots] Why believe in God?
Hi John,
Regarding this business of believing in God. Consider it this way - why not
believe in a creator instead. here is a rational reason to do so.
Think about the amount of resources, time and labour that scientists are
putting into robots and artificial intelligence. Huge corporations like Honda
and Sony spend millions and using the finest brains in the discipline to try
and emulate just one or two feature of the human being. If you were to ask one
of these scientists if it would be possible for a robot with human intelligence
if they decided to let their computers develop the programs randomly? In other
words allow random processes to dictate how the robot development continued
without any human intelligence input. What do you think they would say?
And yet these same scientists believed that their own human bodies and brains
did develop in such a way with no intelligent input. This is absolutely
nonsensical! If they went to another planet and saw that it was inhabited by
mechanical machines that could think etc would they assume that they must have
evolved? They would quite rightly assume that a living intelligent creature
must have made them. Why can't they apply the same logic to self replicating
living organisms?
The answer is not a scientific one it is a religious one. They choose to
believe that there was no creator. That is their starting position. After that
they just paint themselves into a corner.
In their determination to prove evolution they are spending billions on
sending probes to Mars in an attempt to clutch at a straw. If they can't
discover the origin of life where there is an abundance of life how can they
possibly discover it in such a far removed way? There is however an advantage
to this kind of exploration and that is they are not actually present
themselves and therefore can speculate in the most outrageous ways knowing that
they cannot be disproved. Also it pays the bills! They are on safe ground - or
so they think.
Take it from me John the argument for a creator is water-tight.
Jack
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