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Date: Sun, 25 May 2014 23:49:19 +0100 From: John B. Sears <> To: 'ECG' <ecg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> It certainly looks that way KJG.,That's the one big drawback with democracy, when the chips are down, the mob, moved by the MSM, rule and if they allow others to think for them, misinform and lie to them, no amount of argument about legality (and I too believe that the 'Queen' effectively abdicated in 1972-3 with the signing of the European People's Act and is in place as a sham, to prevent riots and give the impression that all is well!) will prevent the wrong or subverted course being taken.
It was intended all along that those minorities with knowledge of what was really going on, would be left as it were, 'shouting from a sound-proofed room'!!
It's going to be a long and possibly bloody fight back. ABW - John *From:*ECG [mailto:ecg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] *Sent:* 25 May 2014 22:13 *To:* ECG*Subject:* Fwd: Re: Fwd: Re: UK Parliament comes to an effective end on 1st November 2014 (new EU rules)
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*Date: * Sun, 25 May 2014 21:56:57 +0100 (BST) *From: * j-garner *Reply-To: * j-garner *To: * ECG <ecg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> <mailto:ecg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>The referendum needs to be before November this year otherwise they've cooked our goose.
How many referendums have we ever had? vs How many referendums have been promised?
Its disgraceful how politicians lie through their back teeth. Regards KJGOn Sunday, 25 May 2014, 18:41, ECG <ecg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> <mailto:ecg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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*Date: * Sun, 25 May 2014 17:32:03 +0100 *From: * Paul Talbot-Jenkins <> *To: * ECG <ecg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> <mailto:ecg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>When we look at Magna Carta, there is a remedy. None of the EU legislation counts for one iota in Britain because there has been no lawful government here since 1970.
With best wishes Paul www.force4justice.co.uk <http://www.force4justice.co.uk/> Sent from my iPadOn 25 May 2014, at 12:48, "ECG" <ecg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:ecg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
-------- Original Message -------- *Subject: * FW: Fwd: UK Parliament comes to an effective end on 1st November 2014 (new EU rules) *Date: * Sun, 25 May 2014 12:40:38 +0100 *From: * Hadenwood <> *To: * Desmond Swayne <desmondswayne@xxxxxxxxxxx> <mailto:desmondswayne@xxxxxxxxxxx> *CC: * Tony McIntyre <>, <ecg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> <mailto:ecg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Desmond Swayne - MP --- This is too important to ignore- may we have your considered comments please. Obvious is that the PM / governing parties, should know all about this and the suggestion that the UK is negotiating its way to mild interaction with the EU and effective independence and without stipulating any detail, is only political propaganda. We keep in mind that the Conservative party promised a referendum in its last election campaign - but simply 'kicked the ball down the road'--- This is too important to ignore- may we have your considered comments please. Thank you. Regards, Christopher H Caffin -- Milford-on-Sea. -----Original Message----- From: ECG [mailto:ecg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: 25 May 2014 12:15 To: ECG Subject: Fwd: Fwd: UK Parliament comes to an effective end on 1st November 2014 (new EU rules) Dear all, Please see below important information from Paul (thanks Paul). -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Fwd: UK Parliament comes to an effective end on 1st November 2014 (new EU rules) Date: Sun, 25 May 2014 11:13:36 +0100 From: Paul Talbot-Jenkins <> To: fame_97 <> CC: ECG group Mail,list <patriots@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> <mailto:patriots@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> <mailto:patriots@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> <mailto:patriots@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> , ECG <ecg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> <mailto:ecg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> <mailto:ecg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> <mailto:ecg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Hi all, This just came in, looks like it's a done deal before any referendum. With best wishes Paul www.force4justice.co.uk <http://www.force4justice.co.uk/> Sent from my iPad Begin forwarded message: > >> Does everyone now about this .... ? If not, we need to publicise it asap.
> > UK Parliament comes to an effective end on November 2014 (new EU rules) > On the 1st November 2014 the right of Parliament to legislate over us in 43 areas, the important ones, will be removed and be made subject to approval. They call it QMV, Qualified Majority Voting. > > Each member State will lose it right of Veto over these areas, so Cameron’s idea of negotiation to recover any areas goes out the window at the same time. > > The following areas of competence will switch from requiringunanimous approval of all member states to qualified majority voting only:
> > Initiatives of the High Representative for Foreign Affairs – Nice: Unanimity; Lisbon: QMV > Administrative co-operation – Nice: Unanimity; Lisbon: QMV > Asylum – Nice: QMV; Lisbon: QMV > Border controls – Nice: Unanimity; Lisbon: QMV > Citizens’ initiative regulations – Nice: Unanimity; Lisbon: QMV > Civil protection – Nice: Unanimity; Lisbon: QMV > Committee of the Regions – Nice: Unanimity; Lisbon: QMV > Common defence policy – Nice: Unanimity; Lisbon: QMV > Crime prevention incentives – Nice: Unanimity; Lisbon: QMV > Criminal judicial co-operation – Nice: Unanimity; Lisbon: QMV > Criminal law – Nice: Unanimity; Lisbon: QMV > Culture – Nice: Unanimity; Lisbon: QMV > Diplomatic & Consular protection – Nice: Unanimity Lisbon: QMV > Economic & Social Committee – Nice: QMV Lisbon: QMV > Emergency international aid – Nice: Unanimity Lisbon: QMV > Energy – Nice: Unanimity; Lisbon: QMV > EU budget – Nice: Unanimity; Lisbon: QMV > Eurojust – Nice: Unanimity; Lisbon: QMV > European Central Bank – Nice: Unanimity; Lisbon: QMV > European Court of Justice – Nice: Unanimity; Lisbon: QMV > Europol – Nice: Unanimity; Lisbon: QMV > Eurozone external representation – Nice: Unanimity; Lisbon: QMV Foreign Affairs High Representative election – Lisbon: QMV > Freedom of movement for workers – Nice: Unanimity; Lisbon: QMV > Freedom to establish a business – Nice: Unanimity Lisbon QMV > Freedom,security, justice, co-operation & evaluation – Nice: Unanimity; Lisbon: QMV > Funding the Common Foreign & Security Policy – Nice: Unanimity; Lisbon: QMV > General economic interest services – Nice: Unanimity; Lisbon: QMV > Humanitarian aid – Nice: Unanimity; Lisbon: QMV > Immigration – Nice: QMV; Lisbon: QMV > Intellectual property – Nice: Unanimity; Lisbon: QMV > Organisation of the Council of the EU – Nice: Unanimity; Lisbon: QMV > Police co-operation – Nice: Unanimity; Lisbon: QMV > President of the European Council election – Lisbon: QMV > Response to natural disasters & terrorism – Lisbon: QMV > Rules concerning the Armaments Agency – Nice: Unanimity; Lisbon: QMV > Self-employment access rights – Nice: Unanimity; Lisbon: QMV > Social Security Unanimity – Nice: QMV; Lisbon: QMV > Space –Nice: Unanimity; Lisbon: QMV > Sport – Nice: Unanimity; Lisbon: QMV > Structural & Cohension Funds – Nice: Unanimity; Lisbon: QMV > Tourism – Nice: Unanimity; Lisbon: QMV > Transport – Nice: Unanimity; Lisbon: QMV > Withdrawal of a member state – Lisbon: QMV >> A brief review of the Treaties confirms the Transitional arrangements which allow, only on specific votes, for the Nice Treaty Provisions
to apply from 1st November 2014 until March 2017, hence I imagine PM David Cameron’s determination to delay our referendum beyond that date, tying Britain for ever within the non-democratic, totalitarian and now clearly despotic EU. > > For your reference, if anyone interested in the Treaty Articles behind this change, here is the legal bit. http://grahnlaw.blogspot.co.uk/2009/07/eu-qualified-majority-voting-qmv.html > > Yours indeed for the cause, > > UKIPCllr. Robert H. Brown > > >NNW Cambs UKIP > > 12 Lancaster Road, Upwood, Ramsey, Cambs PE26 2PX. > Tel: 01487 710898 Mob: 07932 230 609 > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ <http://www.avast.com/> This email is free from viruses and malware because _avast! Antivirus_ protection is active. <http://www.avast.com/> <http://www.avast.com/> <http://www.avast.com/> <http://www.avast.com/> <http://www.avast.com/> <http://www.avast.com/> <http://www.avast.com/> <http://www.avast.com/> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ <http://www.avast.com/>This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus <http://www.avast.com/> protection is active.