No problem, I'm pretty curious to hear what Oracle tells you. -Justin On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 4:22 PM, Nabil Jamaleddin < nmjamaleddin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > This was always a nice way to do the Oracle RDBMS engine. I am a bit > surprised that GI does not allow for this. > > > > BTW, it is not about tolerating downtime, it’s about making the PSU > deploy easier and safer. Less down time is too nice because I don’t much > like being up Sunday at 5am pushing out patches. I have always like to do > as much as my work in the prep side and less during the actual deploy. > Even if it means overall more time to do the project. > > > > Lastly I agree that if this is not supported by oracle and no one else is > doing this, not sure I want to be the first. I will open a service > request with oracle just for the heck of it and see what they have to say > about this. > > > > Thanks Martin and Justin! > > > > > > > > > > > > *From:* Justin Mungal [mailto:justin@xxxxxxx] > *Sent:* Thursday, May 15, 2014 4:00 PM > *To:* nmjamaleddin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > *Cc:* Martin Berger; Oracle-L oracle-l > > *Subject:* Re: upgrade grid from 11.2.0.3 to 11.2.0.4 PSU question. > > > > I wouldn't suggest you do it either. I've never heard of anyone installing > multiple grid homes, and it's probably not even supported. If this is a > production system, the last thing you want to do is build an unsupported > configuration. Keeping the database available during patching is what RAC > is all about. If you can't tolerate the short amount of downtime a PSU > requires, you should already be running it. > > > > -Justin > > > > On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 3:47 PM, Nabil Jamaleddin < > nmjamaleddin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > Thanks Martin, > > > > I still want to try to go forward with this idea. It might be a little > more complex than just a shutdown, rename the grid home folder and start > backup. But if I can figure out all that needs to be done, this will be a > very nice way of pushing out PSU patches. And makes a (if needed) back-out > a bit easier too. > > > > Besides looking into the root*.sh scripts, anything else you think might > be a “show stopper”? > > > > > > *From:* Martin Berger [mailto:martin.a.berger@xxxxxxxxx] > *Sent:* Thursday, May 15, 2014 3:20 PM > *To:* nmjamaleddin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > *Cc:* Oracle-L oracle-l > *Subject:* Re: upgrade grid from 11.2.0.3 to 11.2.0.4 PSU question. > > > > > > On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 8:37 PM, Nabil Jamaleddin < > nmjamaleddin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > Once I am ready to push the new PSU out I > will shutdown HAS, rename the gird homes and start grid back up. > > > please don't do this. > > an upgrade between patch sets might change more than only binaries. it's > likely (even I have not checked) some internal resources are changed. > > If you don't run the proper root*.sh scripts, you might face very strange > results somewhere in the future. > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > > This email is intended solely for the use of the addressee and may > > contain information that is confidential, proprietary, or both. > > If you receive this email in error please immediately notify the > > sender and delete the email. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > This email is intended solely for the use of the addressee and may > contain information that is confidential, proprietary, or both. > If you receive this email in error please immediately notify the > sender and delete the email. > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > >