RE: training for new DBA's
- From: "Ric Van Dyke" <ric.van.dyke@xxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <wts@xxxxxxxxx>, <oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2014 14:56:33 -0600
>> Consider that you want your trainee to succeed, but s/he may not want
to be a DBA in 6 months or a year ... have your time and company money
been totally wasted?
Gee, then why train anyone eh? Seriously LACK of training can be just
as much a deterrent on retention. Giving good training on a regular
bases is likely to keep folks around not the opposite.
Being in the education world as I am, I believe in classroom training,
next online and then very last self-training like books and CBT type.
Books and CBTs are excellent for refresher or "feature" type training.
(Like, how to I use virtual columns?) But to learn something "new" it's
quite hard to do with that style of training.
I know from personal experience when I was a neophyte DBA that just
taking 2 DBA/SQL classes back then shot me way up the curve. I had been
struggling for 18 months or so before my first class. Sure the
databases "worked" but wow! Once I had some formal training things
really got going much better and I had a much better idea of what to
even look at.
Training might appear to be expensive, but ignorance is far more.
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Ric Van Dyke
Education Director
Hotsos Ltd.
Hotsos Symposium March 2-6 2014
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From: oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Wayne Smith
Sent: Monday, February 03, 2014 2:48 PM
To: oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: training for new DBA's
Wow, I think I disagree with just about every response here, except for
the need of sandboxes. (Sorry!)
I think you should look at what you need from your new DBA(s).
DBAs come in all shapes, interests and skills, as will your would-be DBA
trainee(s)s. Figure what your company needs from its DBAs and
this(these) DBA(s) in particular. Make a plan for each one that will
get them functional, useful and independent as quickly as possible with
a plan of skill development over the coming months, with a look at
progress and needs every 3-6-12 months.
Consider that you want your trainee to succeed, but s/he may not want to
be a DBA in 6 months or a year ... have your time and company money been
totally wasted?
Cheers, Wayne
On Fri, Jan 31, 2014 at 6:11 PM, Jeff C <backseatdba@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
We are looking at training a new DBA from scratch (hiring from within)
and I am looking for any opinions on where/how/what to train this person
on. I was thinking of starting with just basic SQL and relational
database design then onto some pl/sql. After that move on to dba stuff.
Is there any good free or cheap places to get this kind of training?
And how would you test a very beginner candidate to know if they would
be a good fit for this position. Any questions or tests I good give
them? What would you look for?
This is new to me as I have been mainly the lone dba for years and also
trained on the job.
Thanks for any input.
Jeff
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