Barbara, Your steps are correct. Just one more thing - comment out the rollback_segments init.ora param. That will keep them offline when you bounce the database. The other thing that I noticed is that the amount of Undo space that is need is much less than what I had in Rollback's. My warehouse had over 25Gig of Rollback space, and it's high water mark was always at 90%. I reduced it to 6 Gig and it never even approaches that limit. You can always adjust your file size later. Good Luck! Tom Mercadante Oracle Certified Professional -----Original Message----- From: Barbara Baker [mailto:barbarabbaker@xxxxxxxxx] Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2004 11:27 AM To: oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: to undo or not to undo Howdy, list. For those of you who migrated a database from 8i to 9i, did you move convert to undo tablespace immediately? Did you run for awhile still using rollback segments then convert later? Any gotcha's? I cannot find a concise doc on how to change over. (I'm using notes from Kirti's excellent RMOUG presentation on "Understanding Automatic Undo.." but I've already forgotten stuff.) Here are the steps I know. What I do not know is when to remove my rollback segments. If I add the undo params to init then bounce the db, can I then offline the rbs segs and tablespace after I come back up? Or do I offline them before I bounce the db? Anyone know of a doc that outlines this stuff? Thanks for any help. Solaris 9 Oracle 9.2.0.4 Barb (here's what I think I need to do) Changing Rollback Segments to Undo set compatible 9.0.0 in init (currently 8.1.7.4) create undo tablespace create undo tablespace undotbs1 datafile '/class17db/u01/undotbs1.dbf' size 500m; insert init parameters undo_management=AUTO undo_retention=10800 undo_tablespace=UNDOTBS1 undo_suppress_errors=TRUE shut down and restart database __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard - Read only the mail you want. http://antispam.yahoo.com/tools ---------------------------------------------------------------- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com ---------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe send email to: oracle-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx put 'unsubscribe' in the subject line. -- Archives are at //www.freelists.org/archives/oracle-l/ FAQ is at //www.freelists.org/help/fom-serve/cache/1.html ----------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------------- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com ---------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe send email to: oracle-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx put 'unsubscribe' in the subject line. -- Archives are at //www.freelists.org/archives/oracle-l/ FAQ is at //www.freelists.org/help/fom-serve/cache/1.html -----------------------------------------------------------------