Joe I have used RMAN both with and without the catalog. It is easy to adapt the tutorials to not using the catalog. Three easy steps: 1. When the instructions say to create the catalog, skip that step. 2. When the instructions say to connect to the catalog, skip that step. 3. When the instructions give a query against the catalog, skip that step. Get the picture? Other than that, nearly everything else works. Actually if you are using a catalog, RMAN still stores backup information in the control file. Since you are more dependent on the control file doing backups this way, I would recommend that you make extra backups of the control file. In your backup script you can execute a SQL statement ALTER SYSTEM BACKUP CONTROLFILE TO . . . As you become comfortable with RMAN, re-evaluate whether you should be using a catalog. It's not difficult either. With RMAN it is easy to have some misconceptions that send you down the wrong direction. Dennis Williams On 7/8/05, Joe Smith <joe_dba@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Yes, I want to user RMAN w/o the Recovery Catalog. Store all the > information in the target instances control file. > > thanks. > > >Joe > > > >I'm not quite understanding your question. Are you wanting to use RMAN > >without a catalog? > > > >Dennis Williams > > > >On 7/8/05, Joe Smith <joe_dba@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > Does anybody know of a nice RMAN tutortial or example without the user > >of > > > the Recovery Catalog? And yes, I have got and looked at the Oracle > >pdfs > > > from OTN on this issue. > > _________________________________________________________________ > Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! > http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ > > -- > //www.freelists.org/webpage/oracle-l > -- //www.freelists.org/webpage/oracle-l