thanks. just picked up jonathans book a few weeks ago and handt read it yet... pulled it off the shelf. skimmed it. its in the first chapter with diagrams. i gave him expert one on one, but he had to read about 70 pages to really get it. thanks mark. to the other posters: i did expalin. however, it is perfectly reasonable to want documentation and people woh have thought out the explanation in a well thought out article can have better explanations than i do. -------------- Original message -------------- > Ryan, > > I know for sure Jonathan Lewis covers this in his three-day seminar, "undo > and > redo costs". I think it may also be covered in his book, but I don't have it > here at the office today. > > -Mark > > -----Original Message----- > From: oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of > ryan_gaffuri@xxxxxxxxxxx > Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2004 11:37 AM > To: oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: looking for doc with diagrams on redo and undo for java > developers > > > Object Oriented programming is all about reuse so our java guys made a > universal > update statement that updates all columns in a table, even unchanged columns. > I > know its bad, but its a major re-write to change this. I was digging through > the > otn docs and some books and everything that leads me to this requires a > significant amount of reading. Multiple chapters etc... > anyone know a short article that explains undo and redo along with diagrams > and > why its bad to update unchanged columns that is easy for a non-oracle person > to > follow? > > checked the concepts doc, but they would probably have to read 50-70 pages to > get the basic idea. > > -- > //www.freelists.org/webpage/oracle-l -- //www.freelists.org/webpage/oracle-l