When I looked at this last week (and again after readings Riyaj's excellent blog regarding the soft limit) I was able to bump my SCN to 12 trillion (the number of seconds since 1/1/2088 * 16384) . After which my SCN growth was throttled at 16K per second. Fine, I feel safe. But then I thought to myself what happens if I fast forward my system date so far in the future I no longer have a limit and then increase my SCN accordingly? SQL> select to_date('01/01/1988', 'MM/DD/YYYY') + ((281474976710656/16384)/24/60/60) newscn from dual; NEWSCN -------------------- 2532-MAY-29 01:53:04 <-- theoretical date in which I can advance my SCN to the max SQL> [root@bbh ~]# date -s "29 MAY 2532 01:53:04" Thu May 29 01:53:04 EST 2532 SQL> select sysdate from dual; SYSDATE -------------------- 1988-JAN-01 00:01:32 SQL> !date Thu May 29 01:54:56 EST 2532 1988 again. Deja vu. My date wrapped. I lowered my time a bit: [root@oimtest ~]# date -s "29 MAY 2400 01:53:04" Mon May 29 01:53:04 EST 2400 SQL> select sysdate from dual; SYSDATE -------------------- 1992-FEB-07 06:28:53 Definitely wrapping, but then I remembered there was an "end date" to Oracle. Found my way to : *OERR: ORA 1513 invalid current time returned by operating system [ID 18913.1]* Which implies that I should get an error if the OS date is not between 1988 and 2121. I did not get an error but my database SCNs seem to be safe for now.... Andy On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 10:57 AM, Ray Stell <stellr@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 10:33:14AM -0500, Ray Stell wrote: > > > http://ifwnewsletters.newsletters.infoworld.com/t/7944027/121304526/606338/0/ > > followup article: > > http://www.infoworld.com/d/security/the-oracle-flaw-clarifications-and-more-information-184775?page=0,0&source=IFWNLE_nlt_wrapup_2012-01-23 > -- > //www.freelists.org/webpage/oracle-l > > > -- //www.freelists.org/webpage/oracle-l