Also, to use ORADIM, you need to know what Windows Version you're using...if its Windows 2000 Server or before, you can't use RDP (because sqlplus doesn't work well in a command window) you have to use TELNET. Chris Taylor Sr. Oracle DBA Ingram Barge Company Nashville, TN 37205 Office: 615-517-3355 Cell: 615-354-4799 Email: chris.taylor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx -----Original Message----- From: oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of bill thater Sent: Friday, November 02, 2007 9:54 AM To: oracle-l Subject: blonde moment... i'm a unix guy not a windows guy. at the new job we use windows and 8.1.7. could someone point me at the FM that shows me how to create a service so i can get a database with files already in place to start/stop with svrmgrl please? -- -- Bill "Shrek" Thater ORACLE DBA shrekdba@xxxxxxxxx ------------------------------------------------------------------------ "He's one who knows that life is just a leap of faith, so spread your arms and hold your breath and always trust your cape." -- "The Cape" -- //www.freelists.org/webpage/oracle-l -- //www.freelists.org/webpage/oracle-l