>>> >>>Kevin, I am not sure what your email is answering (I am >>>missing the quoted question) but wouldn't it be better in >>>10g to test with "commit batch nowait" rather then turning >>>of logging with the underscore parameter ? ... if you want to totally rule out the cost of LGWR physical I/O you have to set _disable_logging=TRUE. This is most concise way of putting blame on the actual LGWR I/O component of some foreground log file sync. All the other code involved with a LFS is still executed. Don't do this with a database you really care about, and only do shutdown normal of course. -- //www.freelists.org/webpage/oracle-l