Re: T3 processor/system & Oracle License

  • From: Tim Hall <tim@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: LS Cheng <exriscer@xxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2010 17:28:09 +0100

Hi.

LS Cheng: As I keep saying, you don't have to use all the cores for Oracle.
It is not the law. You can use virtualization such that you only pay for the
cores you want to use. Your licensing costs do not have to change because of
increasing numbers of cores, whether you use per-core or named user pricing.
Use the number of cores you want to use. Pay for the cores you are using.
Simple.

Rich Jesse: Agreed, processor power doesn't equate to improved performance
in a system that is not CPU bound, but we are moving into new ground with
the storage improvements coming along. When disks are as fast as memory, the
bottlenecks may be different, depending on the type of processing you are
doing. Insert caveats here. :)

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/10/01/morle_1/

Cheers

Tim...
On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 4:57 PM, LS Cheng <exriscer@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Yes of course that is an option, in fact he is looking for the MOST
> powerful dual core existing in the market!
>
> But imagine in a couple of years time when you can only choose minimum 8
> core servers?
>
>
> --
> LSC
>
>
>
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> On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 5:49 PM, Paul Drake <bdbafh@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> LSC,
>>
>> So why not simply downgrade to a dual socketed, quad core server?
>> The new server will still have 3 memory controller channels per socket as
>> opposed to a single memory controller on the mainboard.
>> Perhaps I'm too used to where the lines of the electric fence are and
>> simply stay far enough away to not get zapped.
>>
>> Paul
>>
>>
>> <removed most of the thread so as to not get nailed for overquoting>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 11:36 AM, LS Cheng <exriscer@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi
>>>
>>> I have a customer who's got 200 users (NAMED USERS) licensed, to simplify
>>> he has a 4 dual core server so that becomes 8 cores, when dealing with named
>>> user license model you must pay 25 suer per core so even he has less users
>>> he has to pay for 200.
>>>
>>> He needs to upgrade the server now, 4 core intel 55xx CPU so the hardware
>>> vendor, Dell is trying to sell a server with 4 CPU again, but now he will
>>> have 16 cores after hardware upgrade. Oracle tells him that now he needs now
>>> 400 users licensed.
>>>
>>> So he says what the heck, the number of users is not gonna change just
>>> because the CPU has now more cores I am forced to buy more license? In this
>>> case he is not annoyed about the cores, the annoying point is Oracle forces
>>> him to buy 25 users per core even has has around 150 users.
>>>
>>> So more cores mean more money no matter if you license with CPU or named
>>> users. What if in a couple of years all CPU are 16 or even 32 cores, so he
>>> has to move from 200 users to 800?
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> LSC
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
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