Hey all, I finally have the patch installed that I needed to use the SQL Tuning Advisor from Grid Control 10.2.0.3.0 on our 10.1.0.5.0 database. My idea is to use it in cases where plan stability is needed (e.g. bind peeking on skewed values). On my first try in Production (I've used it in Dev for months now), it came back with a recommended plan -- just what I was looking for. However, the recommended plan is what Grid Control's Top Activity says is the current execution plan and the "original" plan is what I'm looking to change it *to*, not *from*. The only thing that looked out of place about the Tuning Advisor run was that it terminated prematurely after it reached the two hour limit I imposed upon it. Anyone using this feature? I'd just as soon try to stay away from outlines again if I can help it. TIA! Rich -- //www.freelists.org/webpage/oracle-l