RE: Rule of thumb for new schema vs. new database?

  • To: <Thomas.Mercadante@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, <brian.peasey@xxxxxxxxx>, "Oracle-L" <oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2005 13:34:09 -0000

Hi Brian.

To put up a separate instance is pretty extreme to me, Oracle is a database 
that can handle many kinds of applications. I would recommend another schema as 
that takes up far less reasources on your machine. 

Regarding data recovery, if you need to recover a schema or tablespaces, you 
can to a Tablespace Point In Time Recovery onto a separate instance using RMAN 
and recover from there. In 10g you can use flashback recovery on tables to roll 
back. In my experience this does not happen that often that it justifies a 
whole instance. 

Regards
Jon A. Einarsson

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From: oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
Behalf Of Mercadante, Thomas F (LABOR)
Sent: 6. október 2005 11:55
To: brian.peasey@xxxxxxxxx; Oracle-L
Subject: RE: Rule of thumb for new schema vs. new database?

Brian,

Something that was not mentioned by everyone and what I think is the
most important question to ask has to do with recoverability.

If you need to roll one schema back for a data recovery reason, then the
planning takes on another whole level of thought.  In my mind, doing
individual tablespace recoveries for this reason (if you separating each
schema into separate tablespaces) is just not worth it.  I prefer
creating a new database instance on the same machine.  Also, if these
are canned applications separate instances gives you more flexibility if
these applications are tied to specific release levels of Oracle.  Right
now I am unable to move to Oracle 10g for some of our databases because
our current level of Curam (our current software du jour) is not
certified against it.  But we have other applications that can move to
10g.

To me, it is not a big deal to create another instance.  Sure it
consumes more hardware resources, but it makes recovery a lot easier.

Tom

-----Original Message-----
From: oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of BP
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2005 5:09 PM
To: Oracle-L
Subject: Rule of thumb for new schema vs. new database?

Hi Again,

I have a meeting tomorrow with one of our project managers who is
going to request a new schema or database. He wants my advice on which
is best for his needs. Now...as I've said before I'm a neophyte DBA
and do know the difference between a schema and a new database. I'm
inclined to suggest just a new schema, but now I'm wondering to myself
what kind of 'rule of thumb' is there is for this kind of decision.

When would it be preferable to create a new db vs. just a schema in an
existing db?

Thanks for you help.

Brian Peasey
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