I have backed up to disk and let OS backups capture the files.. I've used this process for the past 6 years with no issues. I guess it depends how your site has tape backups setup.. We were not allowed to backup directly to tape for various reasons (some valid) and I have never had any issues recovering. I keep 2 days of backups on disk and a few days of archives in case one of the nightly OS backups fails. You need to review the OS backup timings quarterly to make sure everything is ok. Since I can't backup to tape directly, i can't restore either. If I do need a backup I talk to operations, give them the date of the backup I need and they restore it. Then I perform my recovery. Personally I also don't use a retention period or run crosscheck. I can see in large shops where you have hundreds of databases but I guess mine have been more manageable (dozens..) At previous companies i've backed up directly to tape as well. I personally don't have a preference either way... From a level of effort, they are pretty much the same. l8r -- //www.freelists.org/webpage/oracle-l