I suppose that your comment below about the relative number of hits for Unix tools on windows vs my non serious equivalent illustrates the point I was trying, and for at least some, failing to make. There does seem to be a tendency for many in IT (maybe everywhere) to try to bend a system to fit the way in which they are used to working rather than to learn how to use the different system differently. Generally this is a recipe for pain and frustration, I'd imagine that most folk on this list would find a developer who by default made every table an IOT based on the table's pk a bit odd, yet for someone coming from MSSQL that would be quite a natural thing to do. The systems behave differently and best results are found by using them differently. Incidentally some but not all of the tools referred to are in the windows server resource kit which you may find an easier time getting admins to install, many will have done it as part of a standard server build. Niall Litchfield On Jun 22, 2010 8:35 AM, "Dunbar, Norman" < norman.dunbar@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: Morning Niall, >> I wonder if someone could point me to a set of Windows >> equivalents on Unix... This might help http://www.yolinux.com/TUTORIALS/unix_for_dos_users.html but a Google search shows nothing in the "windows commands on UNIX" but a hell of a lot of "UNIX commands in windows". Cheers, Norman. Information in this message may be confidential and may be legally privileged. If you have received this message by mistake, please notify the sender immediately, delete it and do not copy it to anyone else. We have checked this email and its attachments for viruses. But you should still check any attachment before opening it. We may have to make this message and any reply to it public if asked to under the Freedom of Information Act, Data Protection Act or for litigation. Email messages and attachments sent to or from any Environment Agency address may also be accessed by someone other than the sender or recipient, for business purposes. If we have sent you information and you wish to use it please read our terms and conditions which you can get by calling us on 08708 506 506. Find out more about the Environment Agency at www.environment-agency.gov.uk Information in this message may be confidential and may be legally privileged. If you have received this message by mistake, please notify the sender immediately, delete it and do not copy it to anyone else. We have checked this email and its attachments for viruses. But you should still check any attachment before opening it. We may have to make this message and any reply to it public if asked to under the Freedom of Information Act, Data Protection Act or for litigation. Email messages and attachments sent to or from any Environment Agency address may also be accessed by someone other than the sender or recipient, for business purposes. If we have sent you information and you wish to use it please read our terms and conditions which you can get by calling us on 08708 506 506. Find out more about the Environment Agency at www.environment-agency.gov.uk