RE: RAC environment patching and availability

  • From: "Binh Pham" <binhpham15@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "'Peter McLarty'" <p.mclarty@xxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 07:51:22 -0700

Peter,

 

What I meant was to apply a patch to Oracle Applications E-Business Suites
such as OE, INV, PO, etc.

 

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From: Peter McLarty [mailto:p.mclarty@xxxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 8:32 PM
To: binhpham15@xxxxxxxxxxx
Cc: Oracle-l List
Subject: RE: RAC environment patching and availability

 

This would depend on what you mean by the patches being applied to the
database. If like peoplesoft that it updates stored procedures or stored
code that is kept in the database for queries and functions, then there is
no patches applied to the database in the sense of a dba patching Oracle.

I guess, unless the patching applies an Oracle delivered patch like you
would install with opatch, then you don't have anything to worry about as
that is not patching.

 

As for if you can keep the database open then that is up to the individual
applications, If you are referring to Oracle Application Server, then I
understand with later versions that in some cases this is possible, but you
need to review the documentation for that patch or patch bundle. 

 

HTH

Cheers

 

Peter 

 

 

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From: Binh Pham [mailto:binhpham15@xxxxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: Tuesday, 11 September 2007 01:03 PM
To: kaygopal@xxxxxxxxx; litanli@xxxxxxxxx
Cc: Oracle-l List
Subject: RE: RAC environment patching and availability

I have a question.  Supposed if I want to apply an Application patch and
keep the database available to the users during that time for concurrent
updates, what will the process be?  Remember the Application patch also
apply updates to the database as well.

Thanks.





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Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2007 11:05:26 -0700
From: kaygopal@xxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: RAC environment patching and availability
To: kaygopal@xxxxxxxxx; litanli@xxxxxxxxx
CC: oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx

Li Li,

In current versions, JUST RAC alone can not provide the 24x7 availability.
You need to have the combination of RAC+Dataguard (logical) to have REAL
24x7 availability. Also not all patches/upgrades are 'rolling upgrade'
capable.

Have a look at this presentation to undertand the issues in rolling upgrade.

http://www.oracle.com/technology/deploy/availability/pdf/oow06/S281209_To.pd
f

 

-Gopal

 

On 9/10/07, Li Li <litanli@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Hi, All,
>  
> I recently patched our 2-node RAC (10.2.0.2 on RHEL AS 4 update 4) to
> 10.2.0.3. I got the impression that you can do rolling upgrade in a RAC
> environment, until I dig into the patch installation document and found
out
> that you can do rolling upgrade on the clusterware part but not on the RAC
> database part. Fortunately we can afford the service to be down for a
couple
> of hours. 
>  
> My question is: is there a way to keep your RAC database up while you
patch
> it? RAC itself doesn't really provide 24x7 High Availability? Any
comments?
>  
> Thanks,
> -Li


-- 
Best Regards,
K Gopalakrishnan 
Co-Author: Oracle Wait Interface, Oracle Press 2004
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/007222729X/

Author: Oracle Database 10g RAC Handbook, Oracle Press 2006
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/007146509X/

 

 

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